I need help with Full Blown Turbo Kit

[Mikeez]

Originally Posted by King Tut

GT2871R

That is high PSI... 10-14 PSI
Wouldn't engine blow if we are running that high or was that a one time use?


What is better GT2871 or the GTX2867?

Originally Posted by Reaper

I made 460whp on 550cc injectors.

Oh o.o

[Mikeez]

Thread updated guys, please read my thread again and answer my question if you want . Thanks in advance.

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by Mikeez

That is high PSI... 10-14 PSI
Wouldn't engine blow if we are running that high or was that a one time use?

What is better GT2871 or the GTX2867?

Oh o.o

You still have research to do. I call that run a 12 PSI run. Sure there is a spike to 14 PSI and the PSI tails towards redline. That was not a one time use. That was a tune I ran often and hard including many dyno runs and even some drag strip runs. The GTX2867 is definitely better than the GT2871R.

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by Mikeez

Now for the questions:
1. What trim should the turbo be and why should it be this size?
Getting GTX28, but there are 3-4 different sizes unless FBM (Fullblown Motorsport) has it figured out.

2. Should I coat the header ceramic coating or wrap it with heat wrap?

3. FBM comes with a tune up, will there be another tune up necessary?
Doe the tune that comes enough to flash your ECU through the OBD. I never tunned up the car and obviously I will go to a motorsport garage to do it for me... But just for information. Should I get the car dyno and get another tune flashed?

4. 44mm Wastegate is good enough or should this be replaced by a blowoff valve. What's the benefit to this feature?

5. Dumptube is not recirculated, should I?

6. 7 PSI is enough, I will be running street and daily driven car. Short distances. I want the turbo from side fun as I am driving. 7PSI is good?

7. Clutch? Which Clutch should I get for a daily driven car. I don't want hassle. What is advantages of slipping and all? Be detailed. Opinion matters.

8. I am planning to change the breaks one day to brembo 4 pistons, but they are around 6000$ for the 4pcs. Should I upgrade my break pads and fluid?

1. FBM has it figured out.

2. I would coat the manifold, downpipe, dumptube (if non recirculated), and the turbo housings. Then I would still throw heat wrap on the downpipe and a turbo blanket on the turbo. Try and keep as much heat doing what it is supposed to do and not warming up your engine bay.

3. LJ @FullBlown will provide you with a basemap to get your car running. It will be safe and will let you boost the car to make sure everything is working properly. I would make sure you log your first drives to ensure your AFRs are correct and there are no major knock events. Then once you are happy everything is running correctly and installed properly, you contact a tuner and get a proper street/dyno tune to make best use of your car and hit your whp/torque goals.

4. Wastegates are used to regulate boost with a spring. FBM provides a properly sized unit. The kit also comes with a BOV that you will also need to have the correct spring installed to keep working properly.

5. This is a personal option. I prefer knowing that hot exhaust gasses are going out the back of my exhaust and not being dumped in the engine compartment or under the front of the car. Some guys prefer the loud sound of those exhaust gasses being wasted by an open wastegate though.

6. Your hp/torque goals will determine what PSI level you will run. There is no guaranteed answer that 7 PSI will or won't meet your goals. It will depend on the ignition timing of your tune and the other modifications on your car.

7. Already answered this. I would get the ACT full face and a lightweight flywheel at least.

8. Just because you install a turbo kit doesn't mean you need to upgrade your brakes. Unless you are going to be doing track days, save your money.

[Mikeez]

Originally Posted by King Tut

1. FBM has it figured out.

2. I would coat the manifold, downpipe, dumptube (if non recirculated), and the turbo housings. Then I would still throw heat wrap on the downpipe and a turbo blanket on the turbo. Try and keep as much heat doing what it is supposed to do and not warming up your engine bay.

3. LJ @FullBlown will provide you with a basemap to get your car running. It will be safe and will let you boost the car to make sure everything is working properly. I would make sure you log your first drives to ensure your AFRs are correct and there are no major knock events. Then once you are happy everything is running correctly and installed properly, you contact a tuner and get a proper street/dyno tune to make best use of your car and hit your whp/torque goals.

4. Wastegates are used to regulate boost with a spring. FBM provides a properly sized unit. The kit also comes with a BOV that you will also need to have the correct spring installed to keep working properly.

5. This is a personal option. I prefer knowing that hot exhaust gasses are going out the back of my exhaust and not being dumped in the engine compartment or under the front of the car. Some guys prefer the loud sound of those exhaust gasses being wasted by an open wastegate though.

6. Your hp/torque goals will determine what PSI level you will run. There is no guaranteed answer that 7 PSI will or won't meet your goals. It will depend on the ignition timing of your tune and the other modifications on your car.

7. Already answered this. I would get the ACT full face and a lightweight flywheel at least.

8. Just because you install a turbo kit doesn't mean you need to upgrade your brakes. Unless you are going to be doing track days, save your money.

Thank you sooooooooooooooo much. Very well detailed. I appreciate your help and time seriously.


1.
2. Manifold = header?
3. Who's LG lol? How much does he charge? After LG provides me with a basemap, why would I need another tune?
4. The spring is not already installed on the BOV?
5. So recirculating will make the hot gasses go out from the back?
6. Okay
7. Why though, just because it won't slip? How easy is the clutch?
8. Awesome.

[Dipstik-sportech]

LJ is the owner and tuner at Full Blown.
His kits come with a base tune.
Always double check the spring that's installed in the BOV just in case.

[Mikeez]

Originally Posted by Dipstik-sportech

LJ is the owner and tuner at Full Blown.
His kits come with a base tune.
Always double check the spring that's installed in the BOV just in case.

Alright, I want to personally thank you for the time and concern you've put on to help me man. Appreciate it, I don't know how to thank everyone.

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by Mikeez

1.
2. Manifold = header?
3. Who's LG lol? How much does he charge? After LG provides me with a basemap, why would I need another tune?
4. The spring is not already installed on the BOV?
5. So recirculating will make the hot gasses go out from the back?
6. Okay
7. Why though, just because it won't slip? How easy is the clutch?
8. Awesome.

2. Yes. When talking turbos, it is refered to as a turbo manifold.
3. LJ @FullBlown is the man. He is the guy you will want to contact for any questions.
4. There is a spring installed, but one of the issues with the kit is the location of the MAF sensor and BOV and so getting the spring in the BOV tuned properly is key.
5. Recirculated takes the hot exhaust gases from the wastegate and puts them into the downpipe to go back out your exhaust. An open dump will normally use a dump tube and dump them under the front of the car.
7. I didn't want to have to worry about the clutch slipping. I got my ACT 6 puck when there were less options, and I knew it would hold plus I have only had good experiences with ACT. With a lightweight flywheel and a 6 puck you will need good clutch and throttle application skills. If you don't have those, then avoid it.

[cdrazic93]

Where is @FullBlown when ya need 'em! Lol

[cdrazic93]

Originally Posted by King Tut

With a lightweight flywheel and a 6 puck you will need good clutch and throttle application skills. If you don't have those, then avoid it.

Not everyone drives race cars Tut

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by cdrazic93

Where is @FullBlown when ya need 'em! Lol

Originally Posted by cdrazic93

Not everyone drives race cars Tut

LJ is probably busy making S2000 parts. My race car uses an OEM Sachs clutch.

[Dipstik-sportech]

Or doing Grom turbo kits and big bores.

[Mikeez]

Originally Posted by King Tut

2. Yes. When talking turbos, it is refered to as a turbo manifold.
3. LJ @FullBlown is the man. He is the guy you will want to contact for any questions.
4. There is a spring installed, but one of the issues with the kit is the location of the MAF sensor and BOV and so getting the spring in the BOV tuned properly is key.
5. Recirculated takes the hot exhaust gases from the wastegate and puts them into the downpipe to go back out your exhaust. An open dump will normally use a dump tube and dump them under the front of the car.
7. I didn't want to have to worry about the clutch slipping. I got my ACT 6 puck when there were less options, and I knew it would hold plus I have only had good experiences with ACT. With a lightweight flywheel and a 6 puck you will need good clutch and throttle application skills. If you don't have those, then avoid it.

4. Why would they cause problem? When do you know that a tune has not been done properly?
5. So recirculated is better if it goes down the exhaust system. Since under the car is not practical?
7. What if I don't have good clutch and throttle application. Sometimes, I am lazy and make the car kick back! So... :3 What should I get

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by Mikeez

4. Why would they cause problem? When do you know that a tune has not been done properly?
5. So recirculated is better if it goes down the exhaust system. Since under the car is not practical?
7. What if I don't have good clutch and throttle application. Sometimes, I am lazy and make the car kick back! So... :3 What should I get

4. The BOV can open up during high vacuum situations like idling or coasting with the clutch in and that can disrupt the airflow across the MAF sensor. You either keep the BOV closed or you swap to a full speed density tune.

5. Better performance, no. Better heat and sound management, yes.

7. With your current goals you are probably better off sticking with a full face clutch and not a puck. Might be best to stick with the OEM flywheel as well if you want a more OEM driving experience.