Any Police Officers?

[Food]

Originally Posted by Atticus808

and don't come to Canada either

Who wants to live in canada? I'm not really fond of reindeer meat nor maple syrup anyways.

Jk...I think Canada is great. Much more relaxed and chill than America. And I wouldn't mind moving to amsterdam, berlin or tokyo. It's actually a plan of mine. Most American cities blow anyways. Only places that are tolerable is nyc and the bay area.

Why get so offended by my comments? So I assume you want everything to be homogenous, all citizens to wear the same clothes (or uniforms) and act exactly the same like robots? Lemme guess...you're racists too? I bet you're rooting for the cops in St Louis too ya?

Yes, I'm just generalizing. I'm sure there are many good cops too; but I wouldn't say the majority. Many join the force because they are unhappy with themselves, have elitist and/or Napoleon complex mentality, want to have power, want to be bullies, etc etc etc. There is almost always a dark and ulterior reason of self-interest behind why someone would want to be a cop; and not reasons for helping others. Correct me if I'm wrong. Why else do people become cops (besides reasons of career/income stability)? So they can shoot people, bully people and do anything outside of the law, correct?

[Food]

[Atticus808]

Originally Posted by Food

Who wants to live in canada? I'm not really fond of reindeer meat nor maple syrup anyways.

Jk...I think Canada is great. Much more relaxed and chill than America. And I wouldn't mind moving to amsterdam, berlin or tokyo. It's actually a plan of mine. Most American cities blow anyways. Only places that are tolerable is nyc and the bay area.

Why get so offended by my comments? So I assume you want everything to be homogenous, all citizens to wear the same clothes (or uniforms) and act exactly the same like robots? Lemme guess...you're racists too? I bet you're rooting for the cops in St Louis too ya?

Yes, I'm just generalizing. I'm sure there are many good cops too; but I wouldn't say the majority. Many join the force because they are unhappy with themselves, have elitist and/or Napoleon complex mentality, want to have power, want to be bullies, etc etc etc. There is almost always a dark and ulterior reason of self-interest behind why someone would want to be a cop; and not reasons for helping others. Correct me if I'm wrong. Why else do people become cops (besides reasons of career/income stability)? So they can shoot people, bully people and do anything outside of the law, correct?

maybe to help people?

i do agree there are A LOT of power tripping corrupt cops. Tons of stories you don't hear about until someone quits the force and brings it to the media. Over here, a cop recently was in the spotlight for beating people up, his partner wanted to report it but didn't want to be a "rat". He finally quit and told everyone.

Rob Furlong, known for having the world record longest sniper kill (until recently), joined the police force here after the military. He got fired for pissing on another officers leg.

so YES there are a lot of dumbass cops, but there's many many more good cops that help you. There's one in every bunch.

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Originally Posted by Atticus808

maybe to help people?

i do agree there are A LOT of power tripping corrupt cops. Tons of stories you don't hear about until someone quits the force and brings it to the media. Over here, a cop recently was in the spotlight for beating people up, his partner wanted to report it but didn't want to be a "rat". He finally quit and told everyone.

Rob Furlong, known for having the world record longest sniper kill (until recently), joined the police force here after the military. He got fired for pissing on another officers leg.

so YES there are a lot of dumbass cops, but there's many many more good cops that help you. There's one in every bunch.

LOL thought you guys had mounties

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I can't tell if this guy is fucking around or if he really thinks he'll be able to change things by making pork jokes...

[Vincent]

COP = Corporate Owned Pig. Most cops are horrible human beings. Once you give a human so much power, they will eventually get corrupt. These people can get away with abusive violence and murder. They are criminals. Cops are just psychopathic bullies that have been hired by the government to keep us intimidated and in a constant state of fear so that we will not question the illegitimate authority of our governments

[Food]

Originally Posted by Vincent

COP = Corporate Owned Pig. Most cops are horrible human beings. Once you give a human so much power, they will eventually get corrupt. These people can get away with abusive violence and murder. They are criminals. Cops are just psychopathic bullies that have been hired by the government to keep us intimidated and in a constant state of fear so that we will not question the illegitimate authority of our governments

Exactly...simple human psychology. Give a man anything, especially power, and he will get accustomed to it and take it for granted. Unless that man has very strong will power to not change his prior/original morals. Which takes a really strong person mentally. And I just don't see it with the majority....it's almost Always easier to be bad with plenty of gain, than to be good with not much in return.

And I agree with that too....I think it's unfair that all a cop gets is a "slap on the wrist" when they do Anything illegal...drugs, hookers, beating up people, stealing and even killing. It's sad that they can really do Anything and get away with it. They'll get fired at most. Rarely, and almost never, will they be punished like a civilian.

Hmm...I guess maybe that's another reason people want to be cops..not just career stability..but also freedom stability and the ability to do anything without going to jail? ....to "be above all" and to be on top of the food chain. Doesn't sound bad to me..can't blame them for wanting to be on top of the mountain.

Civilian - gets a speeding ticket, doesn't pay nor go to court for it for a few years. Gets caught with a joint and gets another ticket for it. Court/cops find out there's a warrant out for him from that ticket 2 years ago. Gets 1-2 years in prison. Gets released. Is now put on parole or probation for 5-10 years. Is now in the "never ending jail system." Does the smallest offense, and gets 2-6 years because he's stuck in that "jail system" of being on probation...and repeats forever.

Cop - gets caught smoking crack with a hooker. Gets warning. Beats up some high school black kids. Gets a warning or 1 week suspension. Pulls over an asian girl a little drunk and bangs her in the back seat so she doesn't get a ticket. She rats him out and he gets another temporary suspension. Does coke and heroin on occasion. Knows a kid that has some. They argue and he shoots him in the face. He gets caught... He gets fired at most. No jail time.

Sounds great to be a cop

They party like rock stars.

[Food]

Originally Posted by Atticus808

maybe to help people?

i do agree there are A LOT of power tripping corrupt cops. Tons of stories you don't hear about until someone quits the force and brings it to the media. Over here, a cop recently was in the spotlight for beating people up, his partner wanted to report it but didn't want to be a "rat". He finally quit and told everyone.

Rob Furlong, known for having the world record longest sniper kill (until recently), joined the police force here after the military. He got fired for pissing on another officers leg.

so YES there are a lot of dumbass cops, but there's many many more good cops that help you. There's one in every bunch.

Yes, to help people is a possibility. But if you really wanted to help people, without "power," then one can easily be a fireman, work at the local shelter, Red Cross, or some other similar organization.

You're right though..there is both good and bad cops. So, I guess I can't really generalize them as a whole. But, it's scary that we don't really know the ratio or percentages of the good and bad. I'd like to believe the majority would be good...but we should never be blind that there's also a possibility the majority could be bad too. We will never know for sure.

I think another feasible reason to be a cop, is that it is a classic career one talks of in grade school..you know.."I want to be a fireman/cop/astronaut/racecar drive/etc when I want to grow up." It sounds glamorous...to be a cop - a "hero."

But...what really is a "hero"????

A "hero" only becomes a hero when he/she defeats someone in order to protect someone/something. It's too "favoratist." ...in other words, one only becomes a "hero" by stepping on and shtting on somebody else. And how do we know that "somebody else" is good or bad? Because of what society tells us? What if that "somebody else" was really a good human??

My point...."Heros" are a bad imaginary icon/symbol to look up to.

Hitler was a hero to the German people in wwii...but not to america.

The American president was a hero to Americans during the Spanish/Philippine/American war..but not to the Philippines

The Japanese emperor was a hero to Japan in wwii...but not to its' surrounding countries nor america

The American president was a hero to America in wwii...but not to the Japanese having had a few nuclear bombs dropped on them and also getting firebombed like hell

Christopher Columbus was a hero to the European explorers..but not to the Indians.

Present day...out president is a hero....or is he just a poster child to keep the public calm? It's make believe equality...we have a black president..so that must mean we are a free and equal country. Ya right. He is only the president to relieve "tension" within our country. Because "Tension" is one of the strongest weapons of any country. It is power. America injects tension all the time into other countries...though easier in 3rd world or developing nations so we can gain their resources. Enemy countries are much harder to inject tension and propaganda; since they are usually wealthy countries with well established belief/morals/religions/history/money/etc of their own already..but that doesn't mean America won't try

Etc etc..

[Atticus808]

Originally Posted by Food

Yes, to help people is a possibility. But if you really wanted to help people, without "power," then one can easily be a fireman, work at the local shelter, Red Cross, or some other similar organization.

You're right though..there is both good and bad cops. So, I guess I can't really generalize them as a whole. But, it's scary that we don't really know the ratio or percentages of the good and bad. I'd like to believe the majority would be good...but we should never be blind that there's also a possibility the majority could be bad too. We will never know for sure.

I think another feasible reason to be a cop, is that it is a classic career one talks of in grade school..you know.."I want to be a fireman/cop/astronaut/racecar drive/etc when I want to grow up." It sounds glamorous...to be a cop - a "hero."

But...what really is a "hero"????

A "hero" only becomes a hero when he/she defeats someone in order to protect someone/something. It's too "favoratist." ...in other words, one only becomes a "hero" by stepping on and shtting on somebody else. And how do we know that "somebody else" is good or bad? Because of what society tells us? What if that "somebody else" was really a good human??

My point...."Heros" are a bad imaginary icon/symbol to look up to.

Hitler was a hero to the German people in wwii...but not to america.

The American president was a hero to Americans during the Spanish/Philippine/American war..but not to the Philippines

The Japanese emperor was a hero to Japan in wwii...but not to its' surrounding countries nor america

The American president was a hero to America in wwii...but not to the Japanese having had a few nuclear bombs dropped on them and also getting firebombed like hell

Christopher Columbus was a hero to the European explorers..but not to the Indians.

Present day...out president is a hero....or is he just a poster child to keep the public calm? It's make believe equality...we have a black president..so that must mean we are a free and equal country. Ya right. He is only the president to relieve "tension" within our country. Because "Tension" is one of the strongest weapons of any country. It is power. America injects tension all the time into other countries...though easier in 3rd world or developing nations so we can gain their resources. Enemy countries are much harder to inject tension and propaganda; since they are usually wealthy countries with well established belief/morals/religions/history/money/etc of their own already..but that doesn't mean America won't try

Etc etc..

the police force does have a bunch of corrupt cops. I think around 5 years ago there was a big thing here about some police officers being bullies to others. It was a huge deal.

Heroes. I immediately think of the NYPD/FDNY who lost their lives during 9/11. Not by running away, but running inside the building to get others out. Or the 3 RCMP in Moncton who got killed a couple months ago by some psycho walking around with a rifle. Those people gave the ultimate sacrifice for others.

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Originally Posted by Food

But seriously....cops are bad humans. It's the truth...PERIOD.

If they are decent and good in the beginning ..eventually, they will turn bad and evolve into evil beings. It's simple elementary psychology - once they have that power, it's human nature to turn it into bad.

Think about it.... How many times has a cop actually helped you in your life when you needed it? Me? ...ZERO times!

What about... how many times has a cop bothered you, intimidated you with their abuse of power or put you in trouble? Countless times.

F the police.

Right...well. Here is the basic flaw with your argument - there are two schools of thought for "elementary psychology". One states human nature is inherently evil, as you state, and one states that humans are inherently good. Guess which one is outdated by about 142 years? YOU GUESSED IT...humans are not inherently evil. I will not bother explaining why, if you are anything more than an insulting troll, you will actually learn something before you open your mouth.

You ask how many times a cop has helped me? Countless. For example - I had a small knife on me at my prom. Went through pat down, got the knife taken away, and had a chat with an officer at the end of the dance. He was HIGHLY understanding, and I suffered no consequences. As for somthing like speeding tickets - I have been pulled over 4-5 times, never a single ticket, and only 2 warnings. I was calm, followed instructions, wasn't a ****, and explained myself WITHOUT INTERRUPTING the officer. I have never felt afraid or angry with police, and the fact that you are, speaks volumes about your character.

Originally Posted by Food

But hey, at least you can shoot first and kill people and get away with it if you're a cop ....nice perk I guess they can get used to and abuse free willingly


"Ignorance is America's worst enemy" ....and, the enemy is obviously winning more and more everyday

No, actually, you cannnot shoot first. Or hit first. Some do, but that is not what they are trained to do. In fact, they are trained to do the opposite. I do not think that people are "ignorant". If someone of your limited intelligence can mange to talk, I am sure that the majorty of American's can read/ listen to the news. They arn't ignornat, they just don't care. They understand and sympasise with the police, and realize that they are doing their job, surrounded by ignorant assholes.

Originally Posted by jebuwh

True I guess. That bugs me. I'm busting my ass trying to get on a police department and that's the attitude people have. Kinda sucks. Haha oh well

Yes...yes. Problem is, I know this is the carrer that I am going into, and this is what I am going to have to deal with on a regualr basis.

Originally Posted by Food

I'm not trying to be "edgy" lol...I'm just not conforming to mainstream society and doing everything someone else says I should be doing (ie..being forced to do something someone else says to do).

My point is...it's okay to talk crp on cops; it could be jokes or serious talk. It's funny how this day and age people are sooo scared of cops that they can't even state their own true opinions. People let cops talk sht and pick on them all the time; but at the same time, they would never do the same thing back to them. Smh

I have a few friends that are cops and some trying to be cops too. One was a captain(iirc) for swat in the 909 area. His face got blown off during a raid. He was a decent guy and funny; he loved getting hookers, drinking and doing drugs excessively.

It is ok to talk crp on cops. It is your first admendment right. It is a right that I will die to protect, so you can continue to insult me and my job. Do you know why (I know you don't, becuase you have no sense of selflesness). I do so because I belive in the Consitiution, and I belive that even theough you are an annoying fuckwit, you have the right to say whatever you want.

Originally Posted by Food

If the op wants to be a cop...then that's good and I applaud him. It's a good stable career and a good path in life in terms of income and job pride/passion. I was just stating my opninion on cops, laws, government and America in general.

Yes...what I write is propaganda. But propaganda is being fed to us everyday and every minute through TV, commercials, radio, billboards, magazines, etc. There two sides to propaganda - the sht on TV being force fed to us every minute and brainwashing us, and the other side that is never televised and focuses on the blurred/forgotten realities in life (shady government, crooked cops, poverty, segregation, racial issues, equality, etc., etc). It's your decision which type of propaganda you believe is truly "good" and which is evil.

...and guess which side is winning??? Yup....easily, the big money corporations and bs news channels brainwashing us every darn second. Whereas, the other side won't ever be heard and is rarely heard, unless seeked out to books, teachers, friends and other people.

No one will get it instantly. Change doesn't happen over night nor in an instant. It's a slow and long process.

Sure its advertised. Its called "Fox News", "The Examiner", and other such peices of non-sense.

Originally Posted by Food

Who wants to live in canada? I'm not really fond of reindeer meat nor maple syrup anyways.

Jk...I think Canada is great. Much more relaxed and chill than America. And I wouldn't mind moving to amsterdam, berlin or tokyo. It's actually a plan of mine. Most American cities blow anyways. Only places that are tolerable is nyc and the bay area.

Why get so offended by my comments? So I assume you want everything to be homogenous, all citizens to wear the same clothes (or uniforms) and act exactly the same like robots? Lemme guess...you're racists too? I bet you're rooting for the cops in St Louis too ya?

Yes, I'm just generalizing. I'm sure there are many good cops too; but I wouldn't say the majority. Many join the force because they are unhappy with themselves, have elitist and/or Napoleon complex mentality, want to have power, want to be bullies, etc etc etc. There is almost always a dark and ulterior reason of self-interest behind why someone would want to be a cop; and not reasons for helping others. Correct me if I'm wrong. Why else do people become cops (besides reasons of career/income stability)? So they can shoot people, bully people and do anything outside of the law, correct?

Why get so offended? You are insulting heros and hornorable men to sound like a badass revolutionary on the internet. You sir, are an undeducated kid.

I root for cops everywhere. Every department. Across the nation. Sure, they all have a fault (or many). But, if you are getting shot at, or your house is broken into, who shows up? If I had to guess, you would be the person committing the crime.

Originally Posted by Vincent

COP = Corporate Owned Pig. Most cops are horrible human beings. Once you give a human so much power, they will eventually get corrupt. These people can get away with abusive violence and murder. They are criminals. Cops are just psychopathic bullies that have been hired by the government to keep us intimidated and in a constant state of fear so that we will not question the illegitimate authority of our governments

I don't know where to start with this, it all screams "mentally deranged conspiracy theory"

Originally Posted by Food

Yes, to help people is a possibility. But if you really wanted to help people, without "power," then one can easily be a fireman, work at the local shelter, Red Cross, or some other similar organization.

But...what really is a "hero"????

A "hero" only becomes a hero when he/she defeats someone in order to protect someone/something. It's too "favoratist." ...in other words, one only becomes a "hero" by stepping on and shtting on somebody else. And how do we know that "somebody else" is good or bad? Because of what society tells us? What if that "somebody else" was really a good human??

I would love to see the day that a fireman apprehends a bank robber, or murder. Or solves a crime besides arson. Don't get me wrong, I respect all branches of public service, but they exist as separate entities for a reason.

I am REALLY glad you brought up this notion of what is a hero; this is a very important concept, taught in first year philosophy.

Because I am sure someone of your intelligence level is a college dropout, I will give you the bullet points. We live in a society. Of people. People with emotions, feelings, and (not in your case, obviously) intelligent thought. This society, as a collective, forms something called the general will, or general perspective. This will is essentially the framework for the morals that are held by the society; the desire for social/economic stability causes us to compromise our strongest feelings and blend our desires/morals together. The essential characteristic of living in a society is subsiding your own self will for the general will. Of course, this has different degrees - more so in communist societies, less so in republics/democracies. By creating this "framework" of desires/morals, that is standard between all, we now have a benchmark upon which to grade people (interesting to note, but unrelated, it was how the class system was developed). Anyone that falls below this benchmark is collectively deemed "bad", anyone above, "good". There are, of course, differing degrees of "good" and "bad" - different punishments for crimes, and differing rewards of heroic actions.

You have the mindset of an anarchist. You are selfish, and forgo the general will, and instead subscribe to only your own will. That is foolish, ignorant, and - honestly - pathetic. That is how a kid acts (no wonder we all thought you were a kid). You have no maturity, and I would never hire you, or want to interact with you.

In short, you are a childish, insulting, asshole, but I will still take a bullet to defend your right to say the misinformed and uneducated babble that you spout.

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