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Old 07-30-2014, 09:51 PM   #99
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They still blow through them...

997 Cup cars, Vettes, Ferraris, ......always ignore everything...


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Well, that's just depressing. Here I was thinking the track would weed out the ass-hats. I'm so naive.
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Old 07-30-2014, 10:21 PM   #101
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Well, that's just depressing. Here I was thinking the track would weed out the ass-hats. I'm so naive.
If only...
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Still looking very forward to the experience and will gladly yield to superior skills and/or balls.
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The only thing that I can tell is, after running this car twice on the road coarse, power is overrated. Yes, it would be nice to slip past others like an Aventador or quieter than a SRT8 Challenger. But when you start climbing their asses in the corners, they want to let you go by (it's less nerve racking, I think). Many other "little cars" may have the power to pull away, sort of, but on a track with curves. And I thought my bike was fun in the corners.


Try one of my favorite videos ([ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOeGz2W63OM"]Scion FR-S Chasing Porsche 997 GT3 @ Circuit Of The Americas (Track) - YouTube[/ame]), it's a hoot.


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Hey everyone...

After giving up on the idea of buying a GT86 for a while, I'm again toying with this idea seriously. I figured I'd ask a few questions to ease my decision.

First - about me a bit:
I've been driving various Evos for the last 7 odd years or so - had everything - 8,9,10... Modded, driven em on slicks... The works... They're a blast - fact - and fast as fu*k, however - they are expensive to maintain - and the bigger reason - I have grown a bit bored of them. Since my passion for evos lead me to open a workshop and we're now the #1 place to go to in our country for evos, they are a part of my daily routine... There is no doubt whatsoever I will park myself an evo IX somewhere and keep it till I die at some point, but right now I'm looking for ... well... Fun. I used to be able to have fun on the streets with an evo - nowadays I'll get arrested as they're just too damn fast... 1-2-3 shift to 4th and go to jail.

However ... I am competitive. I like to be fast but as I've grown older, i dont feel right driving a 400+whp car on slicks with no cage anymore... Hence - I'm considering the 86 for real. I'd still drive it on slicks at tracks etc. but it's a newer and safer car...also the occasional street sideways drift moment is intriguing to me. And with less maintenance cost - I could track it a lot too.

Now my question is - how fast/slow is a well driven 86 on the track compared to semi stock-ish evos, stis and the other usual track suspects? On a 1.45 lap - how much time difference can I expect? I would ofcourse mod the car towards trackability (basic boltons, tune, brakes, slicks)...

Also - a non motorsport question - with proper winter tires - how good is the car in the snow? I intend to daily it (like I do the evo) but I don't want to get stuck with it. My old mercedes was rwd and light in the back and it was horrible even with brand new blizzaks. I had to toss in 80kg of sand in the trunk - than it was managable...

Thanks in advance for the comments - keep in mind uour opinion might make me sell an Evo ix to join the community here!

P.s. I have no intention of boosting the car anytime soon so answers should relate to NA.
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Well, that's just depressing. Here I was thinking the track would weed out the ass-hats. I'm so naive.
Clubs weed them out, not tracks. Sounds like some clubs don't bother.
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Old 07-31-2014, 12:26 AM   #105
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Clubs weed them out, not tracks. Sounds like some clubs don't bother.

Right! You learn to drive with groups that weed out people. The best are "by invitation only" groups.
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Noted! Thx.
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Right! You learn to drive with groups the weed out people. The best are "by invitation only" groups.
Guess I need to start stocking up on lip balm.
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Guess I need to start stocking up on lip balm.

I'd work toward earning respect
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Now that was funny LOL
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The only thing that I can tell is, after running this car twice on the road coarse, power is overrated. Yes, it would be nice to slip past others like an Aventador or quieter than a SRT8 Challenger. But when you start climbing their asses in the corners, they want to let you go by (it's less nerve racking, I think). Many other "little cars" may have the power to pull away, sort of, but on a track with curves. And I thought my bike was fun in the corners.


Try one of my favorite videos (
), it's a hoot.
I see your point but in a track like this it's somewhat absurd to compare the BRZ/FRS to big dogs (GT3, Corvette, Viper, GT-R ..etc) mainly because all the advantages of the twins such as lightweight, lower center gravity, less weight transfer are non-existent... same applies to the other fast tracks such as Sebring, VIR, Nurbugring ..etc

So I don't understand the videos titled as "Chasing down XXX" it looks more like following the fast car from a distance

in a track with a lot of tight corners however it's somewhat easier to catch the GT3s, Vettes etc

Take a look at the below video and you will notice that the same exact GT3RS -coincidentally- in front of me (I've noticed that when I was replaying the videos, lol) in different days... one before I went FI and one after .. I think it's a good way to see the effect of the SC kit..since it's a lot easier to catch up the guys with added power even in a tight course and additional power would be a lot more beneficial in a track like Circuit of Americas in the video you posted

[ame="http://youtu.be/lvz-aYHuF44?"]http://youtu.be/lvz-aYHuF44?[/ame]


and after the SC kit same track, same cars, different day

[ame="http://youtu.be/Fa1UWvB-Lrg"]http://youtu.be/Fa1UWvB-Lrg[/ame]
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I guess we'll have to see...

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