Why you need a LSD if you like cornering!

[DougW]

Originally Posted by cdrazic93

No Doug thats just your cool suspension thats doing all the work.

I was serious the VSC is triggered by different rear wheel speed, G load etc if the LSD helps lock the whl speed it should help with that. I hate the nannies.
DougW

[Captain Snooze]

Originally Posted by DougW

Have you noticed if the stability control is triggered less having the rear wheels better coupled?
DougW

It is funny you should ask that. I usually drive on the street with the right hand aid button active. On that round-a-bout I mentioned in my description above it seems that the traction control doesn't intervene as much/as soon. That is my best known bend/corner but it feels like the traction control is intervening less. I pedal dance for track so there would be no difference there.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by DougW

Have you noticed if the stability control is triggered less having the rear wheels better coupled?
DougW

That is one of the effects of having a clutch type LSD

[Captain Snooze]

What I am really looking forward to is a track day in the wet. This will not happen any time soon (the stars have to align) but I love driving on wet track and I'm guessing the lsd would make itself known big time in those conditions.

(Track day tomorrow!! Will report back soon)

[Captain Snooze]

This is not a very scientific review. Firstly my lap times are......mmmm....well....ahhh......variable. Secondly, I have had a tune along with the fitment of the diff since my previous track day.

BUT even so today I bettered my best time by 0.6 of a second!! This is significant (2.2 kilometer track) but the more interesting thing is the way the rear now feels.
Have a look at this pic. This was my second lap out, still getting the tyres up to temperature.



I was a little enthusiastic and the rear went a bit sideways. I was doing 110 km/h when I started to apply corrective lock. OMG!! The creaminess of the slip was just freakin' awesome and most impressive there was no vicious snap back. That is , previously I would find the break away nice but then the rear would tend to snap back. No more. Previously a slip of this magnitude at that sort of speed would result in a bit of heart rate increase. Today it was like meh. Loved it. I also seemed to be getting on the power sooner (I haven't looked over prevoius data as yet) with less drama. I'm not really sure what is going under trail braking (my trail braking is not great) but there were certainly no adverse reactions there.

Worth it for track use? Definitely yes!! I'm thinking that if it makes a difference at my level then the difference it must make for someone who knows what they're doing must be huge.

[CSG Mike]

From a different thread.... but great evidence of inside wheel slip with the stock torsen.

Originally Posted by ja1217

It's quite possible that what happened to me was just a case of me kicking up a bunch of dirt, temporarily messing with the wheel speed sensors and throwing, but if that's the case I don't see anything like that in my wheel speed data. I only see a lot of inside wheel spin (clutch type LSD is planned for next year) in that turn:

{Green=Front Left, Brown=Front Right, Blue=Rear Left, Orange=Rear Right}

Turn 2 is right around the 1500ft mark and then you can see the fronts lock up going into turn 5 around 4100ft

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

This is not a very scientific review. Firstly my lap times are......mmmm....well....ahhh......variable. Secondly, I have had a tune along with the fitment of the diff since my previous track day.

BUT even so today I bettered my best time by 0.6 of a second!! This is significant (2.2 kilometer track) but the more interesting thing is the way the rear now feels.
Have a look at this pic. This was my second lap out, still getting the tyres up to temperature.



I was a little enthusiastic and the rear went a bit sideways. I was doing 110 km/h when I started to apply corrective lock. OMG!! The creaminess of the slip was just freakin' awesome and most impressive there was no vicious snap back. That is , previously I would find the break away nice but then the rear would tend to snap back. No more. Previously a slip of this magnitude at that sort of speed would result in a bit of heart rate increase. Today it was like meh. Loved it. I also seemed to be getting on the power sooner (I haven't looked over prevoius data as yet) with less drama. I'm not really sure what is going under trail braking (my trail braking is not great) but there were certainly no adverse reactions there.

Worth it for track use? Definitely yes!! I'm thinking that if it makes a difference at my level then the difference it must make for someone who knows what they're doing must be huge.

Creaminess made me giggle

[Captain Snooze]

The benefits of some mods are..... well... debatable. And some people have claimed benefit for some mods where I have found none. This is not one of them. I was sceptical but f**k me, I wish I had installed a Giken earlier*.

*In my opinion this mod is kinda pointless for street use but your mileage/kilometerage may differ.

[gramicci101]

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

The benefits of some mods are..... well... debatable. And some people have claimed benefit for some mods where I have found none. This is not one of them. I was sceptical but f**k me, I wish I had installed a Giken earlier*.

*In my opinion this mod is kinda pointless for street use but your mileage/kilometerage may differ.

I don't think kilometerage is a real word.

[7thgear]

Originally Posted by gramicci101

I don't think kilometerage is a real word.

it is in Russian, километраж, translates as "mileage" ... but for kilometers

[dradernh]

Originally Posted by gramicci101

I don't think kilometerage is a real word.

I doubt you can compete with him when it comes to pedantry.

[mid_life_crisis]

Originally Posted by acro

I don't see these cars as tail happy and I have a gt86. I see them as balanced. Buts maybe that's just me.

The FR-S feels like it wants to throw the tail out, but it never happens unless I make it happen.

[gramicci101]

Originally Posted by 7thgear

it is in Russian, километраж, translates as "mileage" ... but for kilometers

Maybe in Russia, but not in real, freedom-speaking countries.

[7thgear]

Originally Posted by gramicci101

Maybe in Russia, but not in real, freedom-speaking countries.

Not sure what you're getting at.. English is frowned upon in Iceland.