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Old 06-16-2014, 06:52 PM   #29
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Since when did a bunch of Yoda disciples start driving/began wanting a twin?!
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It would be one thing if you were comparing different sports cars and had an idea of why you were interested and wanted one, you didn't mention handling or power or practicality or weekend drives or taking it to an event, your post is basically the equivalent of "ooooh shiny! can I has?"

Based on your posts so far you sound like you'd be more satisfied with this:
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I mean, you just said you don't know very much about cars, you didn't mention learning more or getting into the hobby or anything that would indicate that this car would be any more special than a nice late model Camry or Accord. Sports cars (Grand Tourers, Coupes, whatever you classify this as) are going to be more expensive than your standard everyman's car. Based on your posts so far I really can't recommend this car to you financially or from an enjoyment perspective, there are much cheaper ways to learn about cars if that's what you want and if all you're looking for is a nice upgrade/reward there are more economical cars out there that it sounds like you would enjoy just as much if not more than a BRZ. Even if you took financials out of the equation, you had the cash money to have one today I'd still advise against it.
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Old 06-16-2014, 07:06 PM   #31
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25 year old college graduate and yet you still can't figure out your own finances and priorities and have to ask an internet forum?? Your parents, and society in general, have coddled you too much.

As stated before, if you have to even ask, the answer is "no".

Obviously most all of us weighed our options and circumstances and bought a BRZ.

I hope this is just a troll thread.. I really do..
My apology if my thread has made you uncomfortable in any way.
but it's not really a troll thread. I don't see anything wrong with asking an opinion from someone with more experience.

As I stated before, I know what the best is, I don't have to ask a stranger to find out whether "saving" is better or not. Also getting BRZ won't put me in financial crisis.

However I was purely wondering what the actual BRZ owners had to say.

I have already made my decision after some responses. but I was simply replying to everyone to thank them and explain any misunderstanding if necessary, because some people really thought I was asking such question when I can't really afford it. If I was really in financial crisis and can't afford the car, I wouldn't.

I didn't know my thread would possibly upset somebody and consindered as a troll thread. I am new to this community, once again my apology.

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Honestly, if I were you, in your position with your interests...I would not buy the car.

Here are my reasons why:

1. You don't know much about cars, thus the BRZ will only be an accessory/transportation.

2. Going through your experiences of living and things you take responsibilities for, purchasing a new car when it is not needed is one of the worst financial choices you can make. Cars won't get more expensive over time, they only degrade. So if you really need a car, go for it, if you don't, then you shouldn't.

3. You aren't sure now. Seeking help from people won't justify your choices. Say we tell you that you should buy it, the next thing that could happen is regret. You NEED to be sure about a purchase as big as this. So sure that you don't need to ask the internet for opinions. Financially, on the long run, you might regret it and then you'll have no way out of it unless you transfer or sell it. Which is never good imo.

Of course there will be goods and bads but I think in your situation, you should step back and maybe save some money before actually making a choice and then find out what you really want/need.


edit: what @strat61caster said. Test drive the car, if you fall in love, it's meant to be ;3
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I regret not getting the car any sooner. now that I have the car I dont mod it as much as I would like. with a good relationship and soon for a family in a couple of years. I cant be spending money on this type of car. but you should know that if your getting this type of car your gonna end up putting more money into it as well. ive had debut before cause of rash purchases too. I learn that you just have to manage your money well. you dont stay young forever. everyone else says to drive the corolla for couple years. maybe later you wont even want a brz.. if it was me I'll get the brz.
You have explained and understood my dilemma perfectly.
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I regret not getting the car any sooner. now that I have the car I dont mod it as much as I would like. with a good relationship and soon for a family in a couple of years. I cant be spending money on this type of car. but you should know that if your getting this type of car your gonna end up putting more money into it as well. ive had debut before cause of rash purchases too. I learn that you just have to manage your money well. you dont stay young forever. everyone else says to drive the corolla for couple years. maybe later you wont even want a brz.. if it was me I'll get the brz.
I definitely agree with this. I worked mods into my budget and I'm still going over

My coworkers always say "I wish I could get a car like that!".. and they make slightly more money than me. They just have different priorities and I was able to put a decent chunk of my income towards the car.

To most people a car is just transportation. My car is my transportation AND fun. So while others take big vacations, go to baseball games every week, ect.. I just allocated my money to the car since it's what I think about all day
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It would be one thing if you were comparing different sports cars and had an idea of why you were interested and wanted one, you didn't mention handling or power or practicality or weekend drives or taking it to an event, your post is basically the equivalent of "ooooh shiny! can I has?"

Based on your posts so far you sound like you'd be more satisfied with this:


I mean, you just said you don't know very much about cars, you didn't mention learning more or getting into the hobby or anything that would indicate that this car would be any more special than a nice late model Camry or Accord. Sports cars (Grand Tourers, Coupes, whatever you classify this as) are going to be more expensive than your standard everyman's car. Based on your posts so far I really can't recommend this car to you financially or from an enjoyment perspective, there are much cheaper ways to learn about cars if that's what you want and if all you're looking for is a nice upgrade/reward there are more economical cars out there that it sounds like you would enjoy just as much if not more than a BRZ. Even if you took financials out of the equation, you had the cash money to have one today I'd still advise against it.
Thank you for your detail response!

Yea, to be honest the reason why I chose BRZ was because not that I knew about the car but it first looked cool to my eyes haha. it still looks sexy to me.

I have always wanted to drive sports car, or at least stick shift of my own (but still sport"y" I guess haha), since I only have learnt it through friend's car.

If I am hesistant to even get a diffeent car even tiny bit, then I guess now is not the right time I guess.

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All I'm sayin is: If you want to drive a japanese car, you need to learn to speak American.

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Thank you for your detail response!

Yea, to be honest the reason why I chose BRZ was because not that I knew about the car but it first looked cool to my eyes haha. it still looks sexy to me.

I have always wanted to drive sports car, or at least stick shift of my own (but still sport"y" I guess haha), since I only have learnt it through friend's car.

If I am hesistant to even get a diffeent car even tiny bit, then I guess now is not the right time I guess.

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Lots of people buy cars because they like how they look, that's certainly as valid a reason as most to choose something over another. There's also something special about a sports car that I think everybody would benefit from understanding.

Can you justify >$25k (>$20k used) on something because it looks cool and you want to try something different? Some people can, and do, and have zero regrets. It doesn't sound like you're in a position to take that kind of loss if it doesn't work out.

Do a ton of research and reading, I bet you can find a more economical compromise or way to try out if you're really interested in a sports car. And you can still go for a test drive, maybe then there will be zero words that can talk you out of it.
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I definitely agree with this. I worked mods into my budget and I'm still going over

My coworkers always say "I wish I could get a car like that!".. and they make slightly more money than me. They just have different priorities and I was able to put a decent chunk of my income towards the car.

To most people a car is just transportation. My car is my transportation AND fun. So while others take big vacations, go to baseball games every week, ect.. I just allocated my money to the car since it's what I think about all day
I wish I can have that fun you are talking about.
No offense to Corolla, it's reliable, feul economy is on the top, etc. But it has been nothing more than just a transportation for the past 5 years.

When I first drove my friend's old Lancer MT, I had so much fun even though it was scary and difficult at first.

I dont know, I think I will save for now..
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going to go OT here, but what part of "society" is going to teach you how to be fiscally responsible? Nobody is taught how to build credit, balance a budget, plan for the future or weight important large purchases, do your own taxes, etc... I know it should fall on the parents but lets be honest, most parents make horrible financial choices themselves, really this kind of stuff should be taught in highschool so when the kid graduates and is off in the world alone, he knows how to keep himself a float and out of crushing debt.

instead, kids are offered credit cards, aren't taught any of the above and basically sent off into the world just begging to take them for a ride early and let them struggle out of the hole they dug.


Sure the OP coming onto here and asking his question to a forum about the car hes interested is secretly hoping everyone will just say YES BUY THE CAR. But having seen so many much younger lads (i assumed the OP was 18 myself) i'm sure got some eye opening answers and I hope its making him evaluate the true need/desire for a twin. Yes its a good looking, fun car that's pretty good on gas, is it what he truly needs at this juncture of his life, only he can decide, but our answers can help the internal dialogue that needs to happen to process that decision.

also i just realized i've been slowly typing this response out for the past 3 hours at work, so it probably makes no sense and lost all meaning along the way.
I agree, however it is also the individuals responsibility to take the initiative to learn and teach themselves if they have been coddled and/or never taught.

Furthermore, it generally is touched on in high school, and financial classes are definitely a part of any college degree. But even if it wasn't, one should do research and teach themselves.. and I don't mean just asking a forum.
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Lots of people buy cars because they like how they look, that's certainly as valid a reason as most to choose something over another. There's also something special about a sports car that I think everybody would benefit from understanding.

Can you justify >$25k (>$20k used) on something because it looks cool and you want to try something different? Some people can, and do, and have zero regrets. It doesn't sound like you're in a position to take that kind of loss if it doesn't work out.

Do a ton of research and reading, I bet you can find a more economical compromise or way to try out if you're really interested in a sports car. And you can still go for a test drive, maybe then there will be zero words that can talk you out of it.
Thank you for your really clear response!
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I agree, however it is also the individuals responsibility to take the initiative to learn and teach themselves if they have been coddled and/or never taught.

Furthermore, it generally is touched on in high school, and financial classes are definitely a part of any college degree. But even if it wasn't, one should do research and teach themselves.. and I don't mean just asking a forum.
I swear they never taught that stuff to us, highschool or college. I lived with people in college that had no idea how to manage money.

I had a roommate who was dumbfounded when I told him he owed me a portion of the electricity I paid for each month. Seriously?

You never truly figure it out until you live on your own. To be honest the internet was a great help.

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I wish I can have that fun you are talking about.
No offense to Corolla, it's reliable, feul economy is on the top, etc. But it has been nothing more than just a transportation for the past 5 years.

When I first drove my friend's old Lancer MT, I had so much fun even though it was scary and difficult at first.

I dont know, I think I will save for now..
I hate to be the guy to ruin the message everyone else has been talking about, but if you have the means to afford something, go out and do it. Just do your research first and try to plan your finances years in advance. Seriously think of everything you spend money on, figure out how much you get paid, and plug all that stuff into Excel. Spend a long time making sure you can afford it.

And if you can "barely" afford it, don't do it. There's always extra expenses. There's always things like toilet paper, and detergent, and stuff you never account for, that really add up.

Just never stretch yourself too thin. Make sure you're saving at least 10% every month. 15 is better, 20 is great.

You don't wanna be 30 with no savings and bad credit trying to buy a house.
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