More info on Penske shocks

[solidONE]

Originally Posted by RehabJeff86

$2200 for a set of Penske 2 ways??? Lets start a GB


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I'll take a set of 2 way and a set of the 3 way's, thankuverymuch.

Seeing that the most basic 8300 series Penske damper without any accessories will run you $800 a piece, it highly unlikely that it will cost only 2200 with all the attachments required to fit on an 86. Just the bare bones 8300 2-way will already cost 3200 for a 4-pack. I doubt all the special attachment will magically reduce the cost by 1k. But how I wish it were true... *tear

[fooddude]

Yes...but those 8000 series are external reservoir. The twin's coilovers look to be the 7500 (at least, the lowest $2200 option ones).

You can get remote reservoir triple adj for $1350 per ..so idk if non-ext-res double adj brz/frs coilover would be more expensive
http://shop.penskeshocks.com/PENSKE-...BLE-COIL-OVER/


But I get what you're sayin...I am starting to guess it might even be somthing like $2.2k per front strut, and the rears would be $650 per (since the rears are pretty much simple)... maybe similar to the mustang front strut vs rear shock pricing.


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[toeout]

I looked around at their website and I think you're right. For Supra, double adj. set (7500DA) is $3480, remote doubles (8300DA) are $4280 and triple adj. set (8700TA) is $5980.


http://shop.penskeshocks.com/PENSKE-...-MKIV-PACKAGE/


C5/C6 Corvette shocks are listed PER CORNER and whole sets are actually little cheaper than Supra's at $3580 for remote doubles and $5260 for remote triples.


http://shop.penskeshocks.com/PENSKE-...TE-COIL-OVERS/


S2000, exact same pricing as Supra


http://shop.penskeshocks.com/PENSKE-...S-HONDA-S2000/


These are all the same shocks, only difference is in car specific mounting. I'm going out on a limb and say that $2200 is not per corner, but for the whole set. No camber plates or springs, but still a far cry from a $8800 set.

Originally Posted by fooddude

I think the assumption of Penske's being the best and most expensive shock in the universe that is unattainable by non-pro race teams is just an exaggeration by now and getting out of proportion honestly (especially on these forums since we have knowledgeable people here who track their cars).

I see plenty of users/owners and also many inexpensive used sets for sale upon a quick google search that results in many various forums, various makes of cars and different types of race apps.

Here's some pretty inexpensive pricing PER shock and also a Viper SET on Penske:
http://shop.penskeshocks.com/PENSKE-...AR-OEM-MOUNTS/
http://shop.penskeshocks.com/PENSKE-...TE-COIL-OVERS/
http://shop.penskeshocks.com/PENSKE-...VIPER-PACKAGE/
http://shop.penskeshocks.com/PENSKE-...ER-PS-75CODA1/
http://shop.penskeshocks.com/PENSKE-...or-Piggy-Back/

...which makes me think the $2.2k price tag really is for a set of 4.

The only ones that are $8k+ are for Porsches and other real racecars/applications...

...after looking at their catalog and pricings, I really doubt they are going to market/sell/make $8k+ introductory coilovers for a $25k BRZ/FRS... especially when their Corvette, S2000, Ford GT, Supra coilover sets aren't even that much.

Also...I noticed they clearly state whether or not it's "priced per corner" on some applications ...in the FRS/BRZ's case...they didn't write "priced per corner"

I could always be wrong though...I'll leave that to you guys to call them or not, lol


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[CSG David]

The cost is easy to figure out once you know what goes into designing the kit for the BRZ/FRS application. By knowing this, you'll know that the $8800 is a plausible number.

[fooddude]

Originally Posted by toeout

These are all the same shocks, only difference is in car specific mounting. I'm going out on a limb and say that $2200 is not per corner, but for the whole set. No camber plates or springs, but still a far cry from a $8800 set.

Yes....I think in many cases, that's what every suspension company basically is, without all the glamorous marketing/hype - they simply use their same ole' tech/designs/shocks for all their apps..just with different settings/specs/valving/etc. ..tein, ohlins, kw..they all use the same sht I am sure..just with different mounts, fittings, and specification.


But, either way (for the set, or each), it kinda doesn't make sense:

~ $2,200 sounds waay too cheap for a set of 4. Which also includes front strut mounts and all fittings. Especially if it's the 8000 series. But, this can be feasible if it's the 7500 series.

~ $8,800 sounds astronomically too high for a set of 4. Even with 8000 series shocks. Especially compared to the much cheaper aforesaid sets on all and every single one of their other car sets (which are all in the $3k range for dual and up). Except the Porsche sets (but that's a whole diff format, $100k+ car and one of the best cars in the world, lol).

Anyways, I have a hard time believing that strut mounts will be the difference in a $4k set for the S2000 or Corvette and a BRZ set, lol.

The twin is a great car and all...but we really gotta be modest about it lol...I really doubt theyll spend so much time on this chassis..they have better things to do...like F1, LeMans, etc. lol

[fooddude]

Originally Posted by CSG David

..once you know what goes into designing the kit for the BRZ/FRS application.

But, what would that be? ...$6k front strut mounts to go with a set of four 7500 series shocks? haha jk

But ya...the 3-way and 4-way option are waaay too cheap if it's for a set...considering a 3-way costs $1350 per, and 4-way costs god knows what lol
http://shop.penskeshocks.com/PENSKE-...BLE-COIL-OVER/

[IMOA]

Mustang/camaro struts for $2500 per corner

http://shop.penskeshocks.com/PENSKE-...URRENT-MODELS/

The technical manual for these shocks is the same one as linked for the BRZ/FRS struts

[fooddude]

Originally Posted by IMOA

Mustang/camaro struts for $2500 per corner

http://shop.penskeshocks.com/PENSKE-...URRENT-MODELS/

The technical manual for these shocks is the same one as linked for the BRZ/FRS struts

Yes, the front struts are $2.2k each..it's already been mentioned..but the rear Mustang shocks are $650.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by fooddude

Yes, the front struts are $2.2k each..it's already been mentioned..but the rear Mustang shocks are $650.

No IRS in the rear of the mustangs...

[Cheeseballs]

Just got off the phone with Steve at Penske. He said the shocks used for the BRZ/FRS are the same ones as the Mustang (probably why the Mustang manual is linked in the pdf) and the price should actually be $2500 and up. He also said there is no possible way that the pricing shown on the website is for a set of 4. The price is per corner.

The BRZ/FRS has an independent rear suspension so the $650 pricing for rear Mustang shocks does not apply.

He seemed like a very nice guy and invited me to their shop for a tour. Can't wait to go.

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by Cheeseballs

The price is per corner.

dreams shattered...

[simpleisbest]

Anze offers set-ups for the twins at less cost than Penske direct it seems. I wonder if they use the same series of dampers:

http://www.anzeengineering.com/wp-co...-List-V1.4.pdf

[fooddude]

Originally Posted by Cheeseballs

The BRZ/FRS has an independent rear suspension so the $650 pricing for rear Mustang shocks does not apply.

Yes, but the mounting is very similar - no strut mount and no inverted strut housing case...simply just a shock with eyelets/holes and a few inexpensive washers/fittings.

[fooddude]

Originally Posted by simpleisbest

Anze offers set-ups for the twins at less cost than Penske direct it seems. I wonder if they use the same series of dampers:

http://www.anzeengineering.com/wp-co...-List-V1.4.pdf

These prices are the most realistic imo. $2.2k is too cheap for a set of Penske, and $8.8k is obviously too much.

If it really is $8800 for a set of 4, then it is going to be their most expensive kit/app ever made along with the porsche. All/every other app is more that twice as cheap...including great(and more expensive) cars such as the S2K, Corvette, etc.

Also got another reply asking about which shock they actually use:

"Hi,

The internals are Dual Bleed (7565 2-way in-line) for double adjustable along with options for 8760 (3-way with remote reservoir) and 8765 (4-way with remote reservoir).

Thanks"


Edit:
n/m about it being the most expensive....I see they updated and edited their Website Pages and also added a setup for the Evo (which are similarly expensive at almost $3k per corner) and they have also edited the BRZ page and put in the dreaded "Per Strut"

...but hmmm...they wrote "Priced Per Strut", similar to the separate pricing/pages for Mustang front strut and rear shock ...so does this mean they will release/add another page for a cheaper Rear option soon?

If yes,
$2885 x 2 front strut
$700ish x 2 rear shock
...wouldn't sound too bad.

..oh yeah..they raised the pricing too...$2885 (same price as the mustang dual bleeds struts)





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