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Old 04-29-2014, 02:15 AM   #29
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I suspect the dip is not so much purposeful as it is an unavoidable consequence of a series of compromises required to meet their goals.

You may wish to examine the dyno curves of the Porsche flat-six in the Boxster/Cayman models. Those curves look very similar to our Subaru engine's curves.
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Maybe the torque dip is to hold the sweet spot when drifting no sudden kick/acceleration when sliding.
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Honestly, I don't mind that this car has more spunk at the upper RPM range rather than running out of juice at the end
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Do you guys drive a different car than me? What is all this "low end torque" you keep talking about?
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Oh, well, ...... I just do 90% of my driving below or in the "torque dip", so I just got used to it ....

So, the other 10% of the time, when I crank er up past 5,000 RPM's, it's like the 2nd two barrels of the carburetor kicked it .... or VTEC or turbo or a supercharger kicked it (sort of.....) ..... which makes me a happy FR-S driver .....


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It would be better if it was not there, but is it really that hard to learn to drive around it? See what happens when people don't learn to drive/ride on two fifty two strokes? It never it even crossed my mind as being a problem after about a week with the car. Those with MT's have even less room to complain.
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what he said, but maybe not a skanky one.............
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It is this very torque dip that leads me to believe that I may end up getting t-boned in traffic, if I'm not careful. I'd prefer not to have it. As a biker, my mindset is, on is on and off is off (the throttle). There's no middle ground! Scary, I tell you, scary!
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I suspect the dip is not so much purposeful as it is an unavoidable consequence of a series of compromises required to meet their goals.

You may wish to examine the dyno curves of the Porsche flat-six in the Boxster/Cayman models. Those curves look very similar to our Subaru engine's curves.
^^^ this. The way the engine is sandwiched and routing of the exhaust.
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The prupose is MPG. I find driving in the dip is harder myself. No response from the go peddle when you need it.
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LOL I don't want to be a grammar nazi either, but this is kind of funny.

So just for the record, and for future reference:


THIS is a BRAKE PEDAL:



However, THIS is a "break"

And this is to "peddle":
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For one, the dip is no longer an issue for me because I installed my FT86SF Catted UEL header last week.

The problem I had with the dip was during everyday normal driving I didn't want to have to drop the car down 2 gears and Rev it up to 5k just to pass someone or merge into fast moving traffic.
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For one, the dip is no longer an issue for me because I installed my FT86SF Catted UEL header last week.

The problem I had with the dip was during everyday normal driving I didn't want to have to drop the car down 2 gears and Rev it up to 5k just to pass someone or merge into fast moving traffic.
That makes perfect sense to me.

BTW does that header give the car a better engine note? Does it sound more like the STI now?
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That makes perfect sense to me.

BTW does that header give the car a better engine note? Does it sound more like the STI now?
Yeah it has a nice little rumble. I have it paired with a Motiv catted front pipe and the rest of my exhaust is stock. Gives off a stock WRX sound. I'm very pleased with it.

Edit: Here's a short clip of some revving right after I installed it.

FT86speedfactory catted UEL with catted Motiv FP: [ame]http://youtu.be/BP-dvUp4OCo[/ame]
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