How would you shift from 4 to 5? - Page 3 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Vides990 · 04-23-2014, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by immaculate

You buy an automatic if you have to ask a question like this.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56113
There's an entire thread about this that's been going on since the start of the forum, still first page even.....I just don't get it.

ashtray · 04-23-2014, 04:06 PM

To be clear, I don't think either method is wrong. Sorta like where to put your hands on the steering wheel - it's whatever works best for you. That said, personally, I like to work with the car and not against it. The shifter in the BRZ is stiff - but has a solid feel. Other cars are rubbery and there's no feel for the gears. Bolt action vs stirring soft butter. With the bolt action feel, I like to feel the gears engaging. I never have to force it. With rev matching, each gear change goes in effortlessly.

SirBrass · 04-23-2014, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1Cor10:23

the problem is that 5th is slightly 'out there' ....

Not with a short shifter and springs it isn't

Akari · 04-23-2014, 07:01 PM

Method 2 would definitely wear out your shifter bushings quicker in theory...

This just made me realize I have no idea what the shift linkage in the BRZ looks like. Must research!

RacerX · 04-26-2014, 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akari

Method 2 would definitely wear out your shifter bushings quicker in theory...

This just made me realize I have no idea what the shift linkage in the BRZ looks like. Must research!

Post a link when you find some good info. I'm interested too.

I just push it diagonally in the direction of 5th gear. Same with 3rd->2nd down shifts, pull it diagonally. It will zig zag on its own. When I was learning stick I got 3rd instead of 5th once. That was a surprise.

meWant · 04-26-2014, 07:32 PM

My cousin said to do method 1 when I had learned to drive stick so I plan to stick to that whenever I get a twin

radroach · 05-01-2014, 08:20 PM

Every time I've tried shifting trying to draw the H pattern 2nd-3rd I've mis shifted. 5th gear you can do it much easier obviously, but it's quicker to just push it in the direction. Quickness is key because the revs sometimes fall very fast when doing a 4th-5th gear change. I just nudge or flick the shifter through the gates when upshifting 2-3, 4-5 and the shifter guides itself very easily through.

SirBrass · 05-01-2014, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RacerX

Post a link when you find some good info. I'm interested too.

I just push it diagonally in the direction of 5th gear. Same with 3rd->2nd down shifts, pull it diagonally. It will zig zag on its own. When I was learning stick I got 3rd instead of 5th once. That was a surprise.

The shifter linkage is rod and joint connected to the shifter lever. It rotates and pivots.

kberkel · 05-01-2014, 09:10 PM

Saw this thread, then payed attention to how I do it the other day.

It's probably like this in real life

2nd to 3rd.. I just push forward from the back (I don't "grip" the shifter). Benefit of the centering spring.

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ashtray As Seen On The Internet Join Date: Apr 2011 Drives: 2003 WRX, 2013 BRZ, 442 Location: SoCal Posts: 852 Thanks: 23 Thanked 251 Times in 159 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	To be clear, I don't think either method is wrong. Sorta like where to put your hands on the steering wheel - it's whatever works best for you. That said, personally, I like to work with the car and not against it. The shifter in the BRZ is stiff - but has a solid feel. Other cars are rubbery and there's no feel for the gears. Bolt action vs stirring soft butter. With the bolt action feel, I like to feel the gears engaging. I never have to force it. With rev matching, each gear change goes in effortlessly.

04-23-2014, 07:01 PM	#32
Akari Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: 2013 DGM BRZ Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 415 Thanks: 181 Thanked 149 Times in 97 Posts Mentioned: 11 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Method 2 would definitely wear out your shifter bushings quicker in theory... This just made me realize I have no idea what the shift linkage in the BRZ looks like. Must research!

05-01-2014, 08:20 PM	#35
radroach Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: car Location: usa Posts: 2,162 Thanks: 1,028 Thanked 867 Times in 530 Posts Mentioned: 35 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Every time I've tried shifting trying to draw the H pattern 2nd-3rd I've mis shifted. 5th gear you can do it much easier obviously, but it's quicker to just push it in the direction. Quickness is key because the revs sometimes fall very fast when doing a 4th-5th gear change. I just nudge or flick the shifter through the gates when upshifting 2-3, 4-5 and the shifter guides itself very easily through.

05-01-2014, 09:10 PM	#37
kberkel Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited Location: Farmington Hills, MI Posts: 581 Thanks: 32 Thanked 326 Times in 174 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Saw this thread, then payed attention to how I do it the other day. It's probably like this in real life 2nd to 3rd.. I just push forward from the back (I don't "grip" the shifter). Benefit of the centering spring.

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