Daily Drivers with coilovers comment here

[mav1178]

I should add, I went with coilovers because I wanted adjustment for shocks for track use, but also enough lowering to put on wheels and improve the look of the car.

If I wanted to enjoy driving the car, I would have kept the suspension stock.

-alex

[car_roll]

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

Not necessarily a benefit.

Better than the compression and rebound adjustment in one knob bs

Compression + Rebound <<<< Rebound Only < Separate compression and rebound

That is, however, if the user knows how to tune that type of suspension in the first place, so I guess beneficial is subjective.

[Thunderleg]

Thanks guys for all the comments! I'm still deciding on what I want, but to further the topic of stock = happiness, what also calculates into my enjoyment is closing the fender gap. So i'm looking for the best solution for a DD with being able to lower it, along with tons of spirited mountain adventures and a few autox's

[continuecrushing]

Def st co based in what you want.

I have them, and they fit my needs, which seem very similar to yours.

[Turdinator]

How much lower you want to go will influence your decision as well, so look into that. Most of the performance based coilovers i have looked at don't go much below 1.5" lower than stock.

[switchlanez]

I've had my ST coilovers on for almost 4 months. Mine took a few weeks to settle so I had to adjust them back up but man I like them so much. Their stiffness is 4.1k front / 5.1k rear versus the twins averaging about 2.5k front / 3.7k rear (more comparos here: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8739). Car handles great on winding roads, excellent bump travel for daily use. I don't cringe worrying about bottoming out like I did on Sportlines. Feels OEM.

They are the same rates as KW V1 which are softer than KW V3 based on what I've seen published on the web. The galvanized construction should be sufficient rust protection unless you live in a snow belt (many reputable coilovers, especially Japanese ones such as Tein or Tokico are not stainless). Even KW's top-of-the-line competition series (found in the TRD Griffon 86, for example) are galvanized because I think I've read it's stronger than stainless.

Advantage of choosing KW V1 is they have a lifetime warranty vs ST's 5-year warranty which is still a way better warranty than most reputable coilovers out there. I had a chance to get V1 for $1200 but still felt ST was a better value since I'll probably want fresh new coilovers in 5 years anyway regardless of which one I picked, so I chose to buy smart. Warranty is only honored if you drop between manufacturer's recommended range of 20-50mm.

[major quicknap]

Originally Posted by car_roll

Better than the compression and rebound adjustment in one knob bs

Compression + Rebound <<<< Rebound Only < Separate compression and rebound

That is, however, if the user knows how to tune that type of suspension in the first place, so I guess beneficial is subjective.

You have torpedoed your own argument

[car_roll]

Originally Posted by major quicknap

You have torpedoed your own argument

not necessarily. Although someone may have no knowledge of suspension tuning, it's not hard to become accustomed to it. A quick search on google will yield many links including this one. There are also many people on this forum that can help setup their suspension.

That being said I still stand by my statement

Compression + Rebound <<<<<< Rebound only < Separate Compression and Rebound

[ZDan]

If the damping is right out of the box, no adjustability is necessary. Having seperately adjustable rebound/compression isnt really much of an advantage over a single adjuster if its rebound/compression are well matched for the application throughout the useful range. I'd rather have separate high-speed/low-speed than separate rebound/compression.

If you're serious about damping adjustability, you can't really be much of a snob about ONLY having separate rebound/compression.

But anyway, good hi/lo damping with no adjustability or a single adjuster is better than bad hi/lo with separate knobs for rebound/compression.

[car_roll]

Originally Posted by ZDan

If the damping is right out of the box, no adjustability is necessary. Having seperately adjustable rebound/compression isnt really much of an advantage over a single adjuster if its rebound/compression are well matched for the application throughout the useful range. I'd rather have separate high-speed/low-speed than separate rebound/compression.

If you're serious about damping adjustability, you can't really be much of a snob about ONLY having separate rebound/compression.

But anyway, good hi/lo damping with no adjustability or a single adjuster is better than bad hi/lo with separate knobs for rebound/compression.

Don't get me wrong, there are suspension systems out there that can pull off compression and rebound in one knob. Furthermore, there are MANY suspension systems that blow the kw v3 out of the water. I was speaking more for the "lower end" coilovers where a majority of them consists of crappy compression and rebound adjustment in one knob. With that being said, the separate adjustments of the v3 are really a plus in comparison.

[wallace03]

You should make a poll. I'm looking to get coilovers as well and my needs are similar to yours, maybe track once or twice a year but 99% DD with 1-2" drop for looks. I'm between Bilstein B14 and ST, Can't figure out why Bilstein cost $150 more though.

[gboca10]

I'm thinking about coilovers too I'm between BC racing BR, ST, and Stance. The reviews for these are all over the place but from what I can tell, the ST are best quality for daily driving non-track use. The Stance are good for track use. And the BC have all the adjustability features and are pretty good as well but I'm not sure about the quality compared to the other two. I need help.

[OICU812]

Originally Posted by gboca10

I'm thinking about coilovers too I'm between BC racing BR, ST, and Stance. The reviews for these are all over the place but from what I can tell, the ST are best quality for daily driving non-track use. The Stance are good for track use. And the BC have all the adjustability features and are pretty good as well but I'm not sure about the quality compared to the other two. I need help.

Out of what you list hands down on the STs IMO. There's a reason you see lots of barely used BC coils out there. While they do the job they're not IMO comfort friendly.

[cdrazic93]

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