2015 Ford Mustang / Shelby GT350 Official - 5.2L FPC with 500+hp/400+ lb-ft

[zigzagz94]

Originally Posted by n2oinferno

Caught doing hot weather testing without all of the cladding. Me likey!
http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=797


Looks like their render is fairly spot on.

I really hated the Evos concept but if it turns out similar to this it'll surprisingly be not that bad looking

[bestwheelbase]

3100lbs is doable. Imagine having a Mustang, with solid power (in whatever small engine they out in it), and a streetable sub-3,000lbs weight after pulling extra junk from the car. Imagine a tossable and nimble Mustang! Wow. If they get everything else right, this has potential to be on my radar.

That text mule looks like it might be gorgeous underneath. Fingers crossed this turns in to something cool. And I hope they keep the sequential rear turn signals or go to amber signals.

[Dimman]

The V8 will probably be closer to 3200 lbs, correct?

What are the power estimates at for a normal GT? 430? 450?

That sounds ridiculously awesome. Almost too awesome...

Call me a cynical pessimist, but I suspect that the 400 lbs weight loss may be comparing a current V6 to a Euro-stripped 4 cyl version. I'm going to predict the GT is only going to be ~200lbs lighter than current. Still pretty awesome, but the FT86 rumours vs reality were a bit of a letdown. So I will expect the same here.

Still can't believe that I'm moderately excited about a Ford...

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by Dimman

The V8 will probably be closer to 3200 lbs, correct?

What are the power estimates at for a normal GT? 430? 450?

That sounds ridiculously awesome. Almost too awesome...

Call me a cynical pessimist, but I suspect that the 400 lbs weight loss may be comparing a current V6 to a Euro-stripped 4 cyl version. I'm going to predict the GT is only going to be ~200lbs lighter than current. Still pretty awesome, but the FT86 rumours vs reality were a bit of a letdown. So I will expect the same here.

Still can't believe that I'm moderately excited about a Ford...

Less than 300hp, more than 2500lbs! What'd we get? 2760lbs with an anemic 200hp engine.

In any case, don't get excited...it'll be like $55000 of those weird ducks you guys use as money.

[Dimman]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

Less than 300hp, more than 2500lbs! What'd we get? 2760lbs with an anemic 200hp engine.

In any case, don't get excited...it'll be like $55000 of those weird ducks you guys use as money.

Nothing a little NAFTA-friendly cross border shopping couldn't fix.

[Wes B.]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

For the Mustang, the V8 has always been the preferred engine with damn near nothing out there for the V6 engine, especially in previous generations.

Most Americans think in cylinders though, so...

I'll agree with you in regards to previous generations, but the current generation is fairly aftermarket friendly. There might not be a whole lot out there (when compared to the V8), but that's because this engine doesn't need a whole lot to perform.

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Take this Mustang for example. It'll run 10's all day long, and nothing too major has been done to it. The build recipe is actually very simple: ProCharger D1 centrifugal supercharger, long-tube headers, 4.10 gears, 80 lb/hr fuel injectors, Circle D torque converter with 3,000 rpm stall, and 295/55-15 Mickey Thompson ET street radials in the rear.

[reni]

Fancy materials and the other improvements they are talking about sound nice and all, but I thought the whole point of muscle cars was cheap power. A stripped 2013 V8 is already over $30k, with a few options it's easy to get close to $40k.... I hope they can manage to keep the price increase for the next gen from getting out of hand...

[bestwheelbase]

I don't need or want a V8. Put something smaller in it, I'm sure it will still make plenty of power (we're still talking about a Mustang here folks), and if its seriously getting close to 3k pounds then a LOT of enthusiasts will reconsider blue oval for the first time maybe ever.

[SVTSHC]

A 400lb lighter GT? Rocket ship. You have my attention.

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by Dimman

Nothing a little NAFTA-friendly cross border shopping couldn't fix.

Don't you have to pay an import duty and some other hideous stuff? That's why I didn't sell my WRX to my uncle. Even at a super duper family price, after import duties and inspection etc. stuff it wasn't worth it.

[Dimman]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

Don't you have to pay an import duty and some other hideous stuff? That's why I didn't sell my WRX to my uncle. Even at a super duper family price, after import duties and inspection etc. stuff it wasn't worth it.

That's the NAFTA part. Made in USA=no import duties. Subaru=import duties. Something like that.

It's usually still worth it for specialty import cars.

Go to Subaru Canada's website and compare WRX pricing. Then laugh/pity the Canadian buyers.

[n2oinferno]

Originally Posted by bestwheelbase

I don't need or want a V8. Put something smaller in it, I'm sure it will still make plenty of power (we're still talking about a Mustang here folks), and if its seriously getting close to 3k pounds then a LOT of enthusiasts will reconsider blue oval for the first time maybe ever.

It wouldn't be a Mustang anymore without a V8 option. And I'm willing to bet that even if they did offer, say, a turbo 4 with 300 horsepower, the V8 would still be at the top for those who want to purchase the car for the most power. It's not extremely cheap, but you can fairly easily make 600-700 horsepower with a blown 5.0. It'll take probably a complete rebuild to do that on a 4cyl.

Originally Posted by reni

Fancy materials and the other improvements they are talking about sound nice and all, but I thought the whole point of muscle cars was cheap power. A stripped 2013 V8 is already over $30k, with a few options it's easy to get close to $40k.... I hope they can manage to keep the price increase for the next gen from getting out of hand...

They are cheap power. Even though the price is going up, it's going up on everything. Think about what you just said for a second. 400 horsepower for about 35 grand. Who else, other than the muscle cars, offers that with a brand new car?

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by Dimman

That's the NAFTA part. Made in USA=no import duties. Subaru=import duties. Something like that.

It's usually still worth it for specialty import cars.

Go to Subaru Canada's website and compare WRX pricing. Then laugh/pity the Canadian buyers.

Ah interesting!


LOLOL. I've done that over the years. $50K STI? LAWL!

[bestwheelbase]

Originally Posted by n2oinferno

It wouldn't be a Mustang anymore without a V8 option. And I'm willing to bet that even if they did offer, say, a turbo 4 with 300 horsepower, the V8 would still be at the top for those who want to purchase the car for the most power.

I wasn't saying ditch the V8. I was just advocating for a lesser option.