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mid_life_crisis · 04-01-2014, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mid_life_crisis

As FI systems go, the Innovate kit also doesn't make a whole lot of power. It's a nice bump over stock, but based on power alone, it is at the bottom of the FI list. Has anybody swapped in a less restrictive intake and tuned for it to see if anything could be gained? Probably not, seeing as the supplied tune is CARB legal, but it would be interesting to know, wouldn't it?

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Originally Posted by trevorovert

what? you can make a good amount of power with innovate, justn ot with base/carb tune

Why the stunned reaction? That was the question I asked.
Do you know of any dyno charts for the Innovate tuned for power and the environment can watch out for itself?

Andrew025 · 04-01-2014, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Lonewolf

Or make a hood with a power dome/bulge...any fabricators interested?

I have a hammer...

OrbitalEllipses · 04-01-2014, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew025

I have a hammer...

gramicci101 · 04-01-2014, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DriftHappens

OH GOD THAT WHINE! i love it.

At first I thought you were talking about the people complaining about the price and material. It took me a second to realize you were talking about the supercharger video.

JDogg · 04-01-2014, 05:54 PM

For those strut brace bars that possibly might not clear with the BPB, would using spacers with the STB work?

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fa5tco · 04-01-2014, 06:10 PM

I love car forums. When these were originally posted it was all :

"Theyll never make power! they are useless!!! DO NOT WANT!"

then someone tests them and suddenly its :

"they cost too much!!!!"

DriftHappens · 04-01-2014, 06:31 PM

could go both ways.

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Originally Posted by gramicci101

At first I thought you were talking about the people complaining about the price and material. It took me a second to realize you were talking about the supercharger video.

Kodename47 · 04-01-2014, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mid_life_crisis

As FI systems go, the Innovate kit also doesn't make a whole lot of power. It's a nice bump over stock, but based on power alone, it is at the bottom of the FI list. Has anybody swapped in a less restrictive intake and tuned for it to see if anything could be gained? Probably not, seeing as the supplied tune is CARB legal, but it would be interesting to know, wouldn't it?

Well, AVO uses it too on their turbo.....

cslntuee · 04-01-2014, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Crawford Performance

Sorry if I confused the original question. Our BPB will add power and torque to any existing mod on your car.

Will the BPB also work for the AT?
Thanks.

cslntuee · 04-01-2014, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by nelsmar

Also the owner of the car is picking up a set of headers this week and will be back on the dyno for testing. So for those of you that were asking for paired headers with a catless header I will revise this post once I get it back on the dyno. Thanks @Lyzak for loaning me your car for the day!

Do you still plan to combine both BPB and big throttle body?
I am very interested in the dyno result.
Will you plan to dyno on this combination?
Thanks.

Crawford Performance · 04-01-2014, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cslntuee

Will the BPB also work for the AT?
Thanks.

Yep, we installed a set on an auto last week. The owner was super happy...

cslntuee · 04-02-2014, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Crawford Performance

The aftermarket intakes manipulate the maf sensor voltage, this is where the extra power comes from. Other than that there is not much to be had as the stock one works quite well. The aftermarket intakes are only beneficial if you are not going to tune the car.

HI,

I have TRD intake.
Compared with stock one which one can get better result with your BPB?
(I still have stock one)
What's your suggestion?
Thanks.

Crawford Performance · 04-02-2014, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by cslntuee

HI,

I have TRD intake.
Compared with stock one which one can get better result with your BPB?
(I still have stock one)
What's your suggestion?
Thanks.

We have tuned the TRD intake and it did not make any more power than our stock BRZ to be honest. They both saw the same power increase from the BPB though

Jmonty · 04-02-2014, 05:43 AM

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