Who did the LS2 swap? I'm Interested.

[diss7]

Your current setup should be excellent for drifting. I certainly wouldn't pull it out to put a v8 in.

[Carolina Dyno]

Originally Posted by Pure Automotive

We just finished our shop car:

It's a much bigger project than you realize and it gets really expensive to do it right. If someone off the street came to me and said "LS swap my FRS/BRZ" it would start around $25,000. You probably just spit out your drink when you read that but let me break that down: $8000 Swap Kit, $8000 (Average) for a low mileage full LS2 Droupout (Engine, trans, ecu, gas pedal, wiring harness, etc.), About $1000 to properly prepare the engine, ie: new head gaskets, new valve cover gaskets, new timing cover gaskets, new oil pan gasket, new timing set, new thermostat, new water pump, etc. You also need a clutch, new trans fluid, and new oil and filter, so there's another $1000. You need around $500 in miscellaneous hoses, clamps, brackets, belts, etc. You're going to need a proper tune which will cost you around $500. Now we're talking $19000 just in parts and that's if you don' want to improve the engine at all. Let me tell you once it's in there, its a bitch to get it back out so if you want to do head work, cam, valve train, etc, you gotta drop that money too, so there's another AT LEAST $1000 if not way more. That plus $5000 labor give or take a week and bam there you have it.

Amen, people don't realize how much money it takes to do something like this right. We do swaps all the time and most people are shocked when they hear how expensive it is. Sure some backyard mechanic can get a junkyard motor and half ass wedge it in there for cheap if that's what you want but if you want a legit shop to do it and have OEM (or better) fit and finish you are going to pay for it.

[diss7]

People are cheap asses regardless.
You could find a way to double horsepower for $500, and you'd still get bundies saying "of this was $300 I'd buy it"

[Model Citizen]

Originally Posted by diss7

People are cheap asses regardless.
You could find a way to double horsepower for $500, and you'd still get bundies saying "of this was $300 I'd buy it"

I'd go as high as $250

[fourvalleys]

Originally Posted by diss7

Your current setup should be excellent for drifting. I certainly wouldn't pull it out to put a v8 in.

You know what this means... buy a Miata and have FlyinMiata drop a V8 in. Drive both.

[Luckrider]

Originally Posted by Synack

This may or may not be in the correct section, but I figured if ANYONE knew who did the LS2 swap, then it would be the people of this subforum.

As you already know I've got my built motor + turbo ~350whp FR-S, but I'm looking for something more. I want that instant V8 torque (great for drifting). I will probably add a supercharger on top of it. 500whp is the goal.

Anyway, does anyone know what shop did it? I think I remember them being in Connecticut.

Thanks

You have a built and boosted FA-20 and you want to swap it for a V8 that will cost enough to buy a used barely FR-S in place of bumping out power output of the 2.0L?

[xwd]

I like the idea of doing a LS2 swap and all, but unless you are getting an 86 shell for almost nothing I'm not sure why you wouldn't just buy a Corvette. It does pretty much everything better than our cars and in the end it's cheaper.

[Cross]

Last I looked the cars for sale on LS1 Tech.


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[cf6mech]

http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Projects...8839&k=t45GCwQ

After my terrible experience with my previous shop,...this is in the works with Vorshlag. Unlike weapons grade this will be turn key with all the gauges working with custom headers and exhaust, Tremec MagnumXL direct shifter. Read the foot notes below the pictures,....I definitely agree.

[SmsAlSuwaidi]

@cf6mech, wpg got all the gauges, interior. And gimmicks working

[Synack]

Originally Posted by SmsAlSuwaidi

@cf6mech, wpg got all the gauges, interior. And gimmicks working

As far as I know this is true.

[Synack]

Originally Posted by dwx

I like the idea of doing a LS2 swap and all, but unless you are getting an 86 shell for almost nothing I'm not sure why you wouldn't just buy a Corvette. It does pretty much everything better than our cars and in the end it's cheaper.

Sure I could easily get a C6 Corvette. That's boring though. Everyone has a Corvette. The FR-S is also lighter, much cooler and gets plenty more attention than a boring Corvette, FR-S has somewhat usable rear seats and a trunk. It would get better MPG's, not that people with race cars are necessarily concerned with that but it's a bonus. I'm honestly looking to do this swap so I have a power plant with tons of room for power expansion and instant torque with the turn key setup. Not to mention reliability. Mostly everyone in Formula Drift is doing it because they're saying they can run an entire season with only changing the oil a few times. LS1/2/3's just work.

I'm also sick of maintaining the turbo, it's like a frickin child. They way I drive it, it needs it metaphorical diaper changed monthly.

[DC2R]

Originally Posted by Synack

Sure I could easily get a C6 Corvette. That's boring though. Everyone has a Corvette. The FR-S is also lighter, much cooler and gets plenty more attention than a boring Corvette, FR-S has somewhat usable rear seats and a trunk. It would get better MPG's, not that people with race cars are necessarily concerned with that but it's a bonus. I'm honestly looking to do this swap so I have a power plant with tons of room for power expansion and instant torque with the turn key setup. Not to mention reliability. Mostly everyone in Formula Drift is doing it because they're saying they can run an entire season with only changing the oil a few times. LS1/2/3's just work.

I'm also sick of maintaining the turbo, it's like a frickin child. They way I drive it, it needs it metaphorical diaper changed monthly.

What type of turbo maintenance are you referring to?

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[Cross]

Originally Posted by Pure Automotive

We just finished our shop car:

It's a much bigger project than you realize and it gets really expensive to do it right. If someone off the street came to me and said "LS swap my FRS/BRZ" it would start around $25,000. You probably just spit out your drink when you read that but let me break that down: $8000 Swap Kit, $8000 (Average) for a low mileage full LS2 Droupout (Engine, trans, ecu, gas pedal, wiring harness, etc.), About $1000 to properly prepare the engine, ie: new head gaskets, new valve cover gaskets, new timing cover gaskets, new oil pan gasket, new timing set, new thermostat, new water pump, etc. You also need a clutch, new trans fluid, and new oil and filter, so there's another $1000. You need around $500 in miscellaneous hoses, clamps, brackets, belts, etc. You're going to need a proper tune which will cost you around $500. Now we're talking $19000 just in parts and that's if you don' want to improve the engine at all. Let me tell you once it's in there, its a bitch to get it back out so if you want to do head work, cam, valve train, etc, you gotta drop that money too, so there's another AT LEAST $1000 if not way more. That plus $5000 labor give or take a week and bam there you have it.

I do agree the price is a little absurd. I have done quite a few swaps myself, I'm in the middle of an LSX swap on my FD RX7.
I can get a painless harness for 800 or less that's brand new. A 6.0l for between 1500 and 3400 depending on miles and iron short block vs aluminum. Head gaskets and arp bolt setups 450, cam and supporting mods 650. T56 from an fbody 800 to 1100. T56 from the harder to find now GTO 1300.
The swap kits price is what gets me. 8k. The RX7 swap kits are less than 6k many under 5k. The RX8 swap kits are under 4k. So 8k is up there.
My total build for even adding 243 heads and having them milled (450) means I bought most every part and a 80 dollar ecu for less than 8k as mentioned.

My Breakdown:
LS2 2950 Complete
T56 FBody 1000
Painless Harness 800 New
Cam, Gaskets, Heads (243) PCM 1500
Clutch Setup 500
Total: 6750

That price doesn't include deciding not to buy 243 heads because a GTO 6.0 will already have them thats 350 off. You also might choose a different clutch setup or not to mill the heads thats more in gaskets, arp hardware, etc saved. So 8k is overkill.

5000 to install it in a 40 hour work week lets say means an hourly rate of 125 that's above many dealer hourly rates not to mention most performance shops who don't top 95 an hour.

So while I agree people over look the costs to do things I also think people know the cost of finding things themselves and doing it themselves.


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