My 86 Experience at Tokyo Dealership. Full TRD trim 86 on display

[ZmZMWagon]

I miss Japan ........

[Bristecom]

Originally Posted by Celicadude

Dear Toyota NA/ Scion.
How do I put this. I WANT THIS CAR exactly how it is in this photo. I am willing to pay you money to have this car. Its a real easy equation, I pay you money, you make profit, I get the car I want. It really pisses me off seeing the rest of the world getting MORE options for this car, than the supposed "totally customizable" Scion version. This is why Scion does not sell well in this country, because for some reason Toyota NA thinks the American market is only interested in Pep Boys shift knobs and carbon fiber appliques. Sorry for the rant, but I needed to get that off my chest. I have been waiting for this car since they discontinued the Celica back in 2005. Then I get all hyped up for the TRD version, and all these options, that I will probably never see. So listen up Scion/Toyota NA. It's cool to have a mono-spec mantra and all, but how about giving your consumer the option to buy "OPTIONS". And by options I'm not talking about pioneer head units, shift knobs, etc, I can buy that on my own from Pep Boys (not a fan of them either by the way). I want what everyone else around the world appears to be getting. If a customer want no options, that's fine. But what about the rest of us who would actually like all, if not most, of the factory options offered to us. I mean look at MINI. They have the same one spec mantra and EVERYTHING they offer is an option. The damn things can get well into the 40k range. And I am 100% sure they don't have trouble selling cars (and they're rated dead last in reliability by the way). So in closing...
Offer me this car and you have my business.

Sincerely,
A loyal Toyota Owner

Dear Celicadude, it's Scion. We don't give a damn. We believe in the communist model of minimal options. We want to be known as a cheap brand for mostly dumb children. Offering popular and useful options instead of stupid underglow and ridiculous body kits would only confuse our mentally challenged American customers. Also, as a rule of thumb we try to do what we can to minimize sales and profits. We have implemented mono-price and mono-spec to try and make sure that our cars are not customized to fit your wants and needs and we work hard with dealers to ensure the prices are always high and non-negotiable. So in closing, we don't care for your business, it's our way or the highway. K thx bye.

[TuxedoCartman]

Originally Posted by Bristecom

Dear Celicadude, it's Scion. We don't give a damn. We believe in the communist model of minimal options. We want to be known as a cheap brand for mostly dumb children. Offering popular and useful options instead of stupid underglow and ridiculous body kits would only confuse our mentally challenged American customers. Also, as a rule of thumb we try to do what we can to minimize sales and profits. We have implemented mono-price and mono-spec to try and make sure that our cars are not customized to fit your wants and needs and we work hard with dealers to ensure the prices are always high and non-negotiable. So in closing, we don't care for your business, it's our way or the highway. K thx bye.

LMAO... nice!!

[Celicadude]

Originally Posted by Bristecom

Dear Celicadude, it's Scion. We don't give a damn. We believe in the communist model of minimal options. We want to be known as a cheap brand for mostly dumb children. Offering popular and useful options instead of stupid underglow and ridiculous body kits would only confuse our mentally challenged American customers. Also, as a rule of thumb we try to do what we can to minimize sales and profits. We have implemented mono-price and mono-spec to try and make sure that our cars are not customized to fit your wants and needs and we work hard with dealers to ensure the prices are always high and non-negotiable. So in closing, we don't care for your business, it's our way or the highway. K thx bye.

Lol

[Celicadude]

Originally Posted by TuxedoCartman

There is nothing in what you just said that I don't agree with. The parts guy actually busted up laughing when I told him in my horrible Japanese, "Honto, America no Toyota kaisha wa zenbu baka desu!" ("Really, Toyota of America are all a bunch of idiots!", give or take a bit on the translating.) He didn't seem to understand why we had a Scion brand at all.

It's a real shame. Toyota might think they're going to get more youth business by marketing it as a Scion, but I feel that a lot more people won't take this car seriously as a result. Look at the Toyota.jp page for the 86 sometime, or their catalogues; they're as classy and upscale as you could ever want. Now look at any of Scion's marketing. <sigh> Try as I want, I just can't bring myself to hate on people who won't own this car because they don't want to be seen in a Scion.

Oh well... armchair CEO strategizing over. I'm an enthusiast, and I'll drive this car whether it says Subaru, Scion, Chevy, or Yugo; and I've yet to see an option on the Japanese car that's beyond the reach of a dedicated modder! :happy0180:

Yeah, I've been on the Japanese site the UK and france sites, all looks way better and offer so much more. Don't get me wrong I could care less about a badge, that can easily be removed. What got me pissed off is that Toyota/Scion refuse to acknowledge that maybe not everyone that buys their cars is 18 and well off. I'm about to be 31, finally got a good paying job and was looking forward to getting a nice rwd sports car to replace the celica. The BRZ is nice, and will probably end up being my final choice, but it's a shame that Toyota is dropping the ball on what could be a profitable car for them (if not at least turnaround it's brand image problems). I'm fine driving a stock car for a while, but i'd rather invest my money into performance upgrades, rather than trying to source parts that should have been on the car in the first place. Side note though, a friend of mine lives in Tokyo and recently moved to a bigger place, so looks like I might be making a road trip out there next year, (Might even scoop up some parts while I'm there).

[n2oinferno]

Buy a bunch of headlights and bring them back to the US with you. Make a killing selling them. Who cares if the cutoff is on the wrong side?

[Draco-REX]

Ship your lightweight clothes home via FedEX, and pack the heavy coilovers and brakes in your luggage (with just enough clothes to keep them stable.

[Mari0]

Awesome story!

[Symbiont]

That TRD setup is drop-dead gorgeous. I wonder if I can convince it to marry me?

[YukiHachiRoku]

@ OP - Nice post tomodachi! TRD in my color, I have drool all over my keyboard.

This reminds me of the time my father and I went to a Honda dealership in Tokyo, we were looking at a Honda Ra***a (R a f a g a) - wth profanitly filter... anyways... at the time, and everything you said gave me memories of the immaculate showroom floor, and more than willing and very polite sales people.

I got so jealous when you said the 86 had it's own area in the dealership, like it is in a sacred temple shrine!!! I miss Japan so much, and it's culture. I am so sad and disappointed that we Americans get the leftovers, but maybe I should be happy they even let us have this car in the first place. God knows they like to keep "the good stuff" to themselves, export the trash, then laugh at us.

When was the last time you visited an Autobacs motorsport boutique? God I miss those, they are like Toy's R Us only for cars lol... /cry

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6vRVohFuEs"]Super Autobacs Kashiwa, Japan - YouTube[/ame]

[YukiHachiRoku]

Originally Posted by Symbiont

That TRD setup is drop-dead gorgeous. I wonder if I can convince it to marry me?

I want to marry Kaori!

[Turbowned]

I remember when I first read the announcement that the FT86 would be under the Scion brand, and ************* made this banner:



I KNEW this was going to be a problem when they decided to make it a mono-spec Scion!!! I just want a TOYOTA 86. I want the high spec model with all the toys, and I want to pay FULL PRICE for it! I also want to give Toyota and TRD LOTS OF MONEY for parts and accessories. LOTS of money. Is anyone listening??!!

[Dark]

Originally Posted by Turbowned

I remember when I first read the announcement that the FT86 would be under the Scion brand, and ************* made this banner:



I KNEW this was going to be a problem when they decided to make it a mono-spec Scion!!! I just want a TOYOTA 86. I want the high spec model with all the toys, and I want to pay FULL PRICE for it! I also want to give Toyota and TRD LOTS OF MONEY for parts and accessories. LOTS of money. Is anyone listening??!!

Because SCION.

[Celicadude]

Originally Posted by YukiHachiRoku

@ OP - Nice post tomodachi! TRD in my color, I have drool all over my keyboard.

This reminds me of the time my father and I went to a Honda dealership in Tokyo, we were looking at a Honda Ra***a (R a f a g a) - wth profanitly filter... anyways... at the time, and everything you said gave me memories of the immaculate showroom floor, and more than willing and very polite sales people.

I got so jealous when you said the 86 had it's own area in the dealership, like it is in a sacred temple shrine!!! I miss Japan so much, and it's culture. I am so sad and disappointed that we Americans get the leftovers, but maybe I should be happy they even let us have this car in the first place. God knows they like to keep "the good stuff" to themselves, export the trash, then laugh at us.

When was the last time you visited an Autobacs motorsport boutique? God I miss those, they are like Toy's R Us only for cars lol... /cry

HOLY ...... Place like this exist.... On earth.... Whhhaaaaaaaaaaaa