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Old 03-18-2014, 05:02 AM   #15
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So your issues was with a MAP sensor and not the kit? K just making sure.
For your clarification : (and not to start a pissing match.)

I think what everyone is missing here is that the design of the kit, not the SC unit is what's severely lacking. Everything else seems to be a bit of an afterthought - sensory location or lack thereof, turbulent channels creating issues with otherwise acceptable MAP sensor used on every OTHER FI platform except this one, inherent heat issues, restrictive intercooler...

I mean who uses a limited OEM MAP sensor that reads up to 5.3 PSI when running >10PSI and only to make 20 WHP / TQ more? The added boost seems like it's there to push more air in to compensate for both the restriction the IC makes and some of the pressure drop from the IC core?

Get E85. Yeah, quick solution and you'll make a bunch more power. Get the cooling properties of E85 to 'fix' the heat issues. Pay more money for pumps, injectors, tuning and maintenance.

By the time you add the price of the kit with the intercooler, you'd be better off with JR or KW SC kits that would still out perform the Innovate (sans the bottom end where the twin screw setup shines. )

That's just a poorly priced, poorly rushed out product IMHO.

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For your clarification : (and not to start a pissing match.)

No worries Bob. I always point my piss at the toilet.
Nonetheless, it saddens me that you feel so strongly against what I consider to be a great kit for this platform. I still respect you though.
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For your clarification : (and not to start a pissing match.)

I think what everyone is missing here is that the design of the kit, not the SC unit is what's severely lacking. Everything else seems to be a bit of an afterthought - sensory location or lack thereof, turbulent channels creating issues with otherwise acceptable MAP sensor used on every OTHER FI platform except this one, inherent heat issues, restrictive intercooler...

I mean who uses a limited OEM MAP sensor that reads up to 5.3 PSI when running >10PSI and only to make 20 WHP / TQ more? The added boost seems like it's there to push more air in to compensate for both the restriction the IC makes and some of the pressure drop from the IC core?

Get E85. Yeah, quick solution and you'll make a bunch more power. Get the cooling properties of E85 to 'fix' the heat issues. Pay more money for pumps, injectors, tuning and maintenance.

By the time you add the price of the kit with the intercooler, you'd be better off with JR or KW SC kits that would still out perform the Innovate (sans the bottom end where the twin screw setup shines. )

That's just a poorly priced, poorly rushed out product IMHO.

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I'm curious as to the gas mileage you guys are getting on the Innovate...?
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I'm curious as to the gas mileage you guys are getting on the Innovate...?
I just avg'd 29.8 (going off the digital thingie) going from troutdale-seaside avging 65mph but varied from 25-100. Went 270 miles on 3/4 tank.
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I'm curious as to the gas mileage you guys are getting on the Innovate...?
I haven't paid too much attention but I think maybe 1 mpg or so less.
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If I drive like a sissy, I can squeeze 30+ mpg out of her
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Do you guys like the innovate kit? I've been wanting to get one but I haven't been able to convince the wife. Its a hard sell. :P
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Josh's Innovate intercooled 70mm pulleyed 92oct results

Yes, it's a great kit with a lot of future potential. You can test drive my car (it's modified significantly beyond the base kit though) if you ever make it down to a meet in Portland.
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I like it my wife hates it
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Why does she hate it?
Since just for the base kit we have spent about 5 grand with all the issues.
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I've spend too much on mine too and I bought it used! ;(
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I've spend too much on mine too and I bought it used! ;(
Kicking myself in the ass for selling the Perrin 3in intake now... Since I need a 3in intake to run E85 and 70mm pulley on non intercooled...... dammit.... LOL.
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