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Old 03-17-2014, 10:15 AM   #15
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And FYI rust warranty is for perforation as far as I know, not surface rust.
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Old 03-17-2014, 02:10 PM   #16
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Look at Drift King's own white TRD AE86 it has to be fully rebuilt inside and out (fully stripped and re-welding reinforcements in a lot of areas on the body) after less than 2 decades as the chassis would have been weaken, rust buildup, etc. You can find the video on YouTube.

Surface rust on the undercarriage is hard to avoid, and this is a Japanese car with washing machine steel, not even German quality steel. It's to be expected.

If you want a Patek Phillippe type car to be passed down the generations, an aluminum Honda NSX may be the better choice.

If you think this is bad, check out the new Lexus LX undercarriage with its surface rust issue (it's a lot worse and sometimes it's happening to the new car which hasn't even been sold off the lot yet).
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Rust: http://www.clublexus.com/forums/lx57...013-in-us.html

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Old 03-17-2014, 11:45 PM   #18
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Well the good news is that the car will only be driven year round for another year at most.

And some crazy how there are still 240Z's on the road so I think I can manage.
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Old 03-19-2014, 05:08 PM   #19
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Only suckers drive their cars and keep them in air - all that oxygen just eating away at your car. Your car is rusting RIGHT NOW AS YOU READ THIS!


I keep mine in a vat of mineral oil with helium cover gas. When archeologists excavate in 3000 years this priceless relic will be ready to go.
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Old 03-19-2014, 05:42 PM   #20
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Surface rust on the undercarriage is hard to avoid, and this is a Japanese car with washing machine steel, not even German quality steel. It's to be expected.


Wat? The Japanese where some of the first ones to catch on to galvanizing the sheetmetal (like some of the Germans). Not to mention the extensive use of high strength steel in these cars.


If anything the Germans are worse (well, maybe not Porshe, but the rest of them these days)


For instance: http://www.germancarforum.com/commun...-series.47189/
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Wat? The Japanese where some of the first ones to catch on to galvanizing the sheetmetal (like some of the Germans). Not to mention the extensive use of high strength steel in these cars.


If anything the Germans are worse (well, maybe not Porshe, but the rest of them these days)


For instance: http://www.germancarforum.com/commun...-series.47189/
Wow that's globalization I guess. My 2007 Golf GTI had shinny paint finish even on the inside (i.e. under the hood, inside of panels, hinges, etc). I didn't even touch up a lot of stone chips on that car and not a sign of rust in 6.5 years unlike the same generation Korean and Japanese stuff I see at dealer lots (surface rusts). I grew up with Japanese cars in the 80s and 90s, that galvanized steel on both sides you talking about is bullshit against our winter salted roads up here. A lot of my friends still drive both German and Japanese cars from the 90's and the rusting always show up with the Japanese cars first (usually wheel wells and fenders).

Now I just see matte paint on the inside with these new cars it's kinda sad.

Trust me the steel quality is different between Germany / France vs. Japan. You should always pick the Euro steel, but you wouldn't want their Bosch electronics lol!

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Old 03-19-2014, 07:33 PM   #22
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Wow that's globalization I guess. My 2007 Golf GTI had shinny paint finish even on the inside (i.e. under the hood, inside of panels, hinges, etc). I didn't even touch up a lot of stone chips on that car and not a sign of rust in 6.5 years unlike the same generation Korean and Japanese stuff I see at dealer lots (surface rusts). I grew up with Japanese cars in the 80s and 90s, that galvanized steel on both sides you talking about is bullshit against our winter salted roads up here. A lot of my friends still drive both German and Japanese cars from the 90's and the rusting always show up with the Japanese cars first (usually wheel wells and fenders).

Now I just see matte paint on the inside with these new cars it's kinda sad.

Trust me the steel quality is different between Germany / France vs. Japan. You should always pick the Euro steel, but you wouldn't want their Bosch electronics lol!


Honestly I think it's more to do with the paint than anything else. Road salt will eat damn near any steel... Down here where they very rarely use salt thankfully.
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Old 03-19-2014, 07:46 PM   #23
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  1. Wire brush the rusted area
  2. Single coat of Flat Black Rustoleum spray paint
  3. 2 Coats of Rustoleum UnderCoating
  4. Finished
  5. Routine rust-checkups
Additional coats are up to your preference.




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Use a rust reformer ,not just a primer:

http://www.rustoleum.com/product-cat...rust-reformer/
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Old 03-19-2014, 08:04 PM   #24
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Use a rust reformer ,not just a primer:

http://www.rustoleum.com/product-cat...rust-reformer/
Even better!
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Old 03-19-2014, 08:53 PM   #25
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Rust happens. Best rust prevention is a winter beater. I know what I pay for my truck is probably what I would pay in car washes alone.

I also take the BRZ off insurance so that's a nice break.
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Honestly I think it's more to do with the paint than anything else. Road salt will eat damn near any steel... Down here where they very rarely use salt thankfully.
That is correct. Luckily we only get 2-3 days of ice/sleet per year.

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I also take the BRZ off insurance so that's a nice break.
Man thats ballzy! I understand that you can save but what about unforeseen circumstances? Unless you park in a multiple story solid concrete parking garage (private unit).


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Hopefully, MRK1 is referring ONLY to the collision portion of the insurance cost which can be significant. Liability coverage should continue.
If one has homeowners insurance then fire, theft or any other damage may be covered. Either way, consulting with an insurance professional is recommended..
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