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Old 10-04-2014, 12:10 AM   #995
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Can you purchase the fi version of the oil cooler and use it for na
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Can you purchase the fi version of the oil cooler and use it for na

Yes. But you know you want MOOOO PPPOOOWWWWEEERRRR!!!!!!
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Nope... different brackets. Although the location is similar, the way they mount is different since there is no Rotrex fluid cooler and no intercooler.
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Nope... different brackets. Although the location is similar, the way they mount is different since there is no Rotrex fluid cooler and no intercooler.

He wants MOOORRREEEE PPPOOOOOWWWEEERRRR!!!!!
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I am seriously looking at getting this system. I have some questions:

Any concerns about winter with this setup? I live in MN and winters get pretty cold. I do have a heated garage and don't park outside all day, but how would this handle cold starts at 20 below?

Is the oil cooler an issue in cold climates?

Is there/will there be any other tune offered by Jackson other than the Carb tune?

I don't need the carb certification here and would like a tune that perhaps has a little more power if possible. Perhaps there is not much more left on the table?

Are the ecutech features such as racerom/autoblip and all that stuff usable/available with the current JRC factory tune?

Do I really need to use 100 octane at the track per the manual?

This looks like a great setup for me. I daily drive my car year round in MN about 15,000 miles per year and get to the track (BIR) 3-4 time a year. I definitely need more power to at the track. I can keep up with most cars in the tight sections of the track, but really fall behind on the straightaways.

And thanks in advance to the guys at CSG, you guys really are very helpful with this platform.

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I am seriously looking at getting this system. I have some questions:

Any concerns about winter with this setup? I live in MN and winters get pretty cold. I do have a heated garage and don't park outside all day, but how would this handle cold starts at 20 below?

Is the oil cooler an issue in cold climates?

Is there/will there be any other tune offered by Jackson other than the Carb tune?

I don't need the carb certification here and would like a tune that perhaps has a little more power if possible. Perhaps there is not much more left on the table?

Are the ecutech features such as racerom/autoblip and all that stuff usable/available with the current JRC factory tune?

Do I really need to use 100 octane at the track per the manual?

This looks like a great setup for me. I daily drive my car year round in MN about 15,000 miles per year and get to the track (BIR) 3-4 time a year. I definitely need more power to at the track. I can keep up with most cars in the tight sections of the track, but really fall behind on the straightaways.

And thanks in advance to the guys at CSG, you guys really are very helpful with this platform.

Thanks!

Pat
If you are not tracking in the winter use 0w20, its going to take longer for your oil to heat up and stay warm because of the cooler. The oil in the Rotrex is no issue in cold but take it easy until up to temp.

Try avoiding using 100 Octane if you are running cats, as it will eat them up faster. Just use your standard 93 or race 93. You can enable all those features yourself (auto blip etc, with the software)

In hotter temps you want to use at a minimum of 10w30 for track, and if you are seeing oil temps over 245F use 10w40 to keep oil pressure stable.
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okay just got my 2nd CEL on my my JRSC kitted FRS. The error was that my system is running too rich. I've had a strange feeling that it seems to run rich because my exhaust tips are black. Has anyone else encountered this problem? I had to use Torque to clear the CEL.
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If you are not tracking in the winter use 0w20, its going to take longer for your oil to heat up and stay warm because of the cooler. The oil in the Rotrex is no issue in cold but take it easy until up to temp.

The oil cooler is thermostatically controlled, so no, it's not going to take longer to warm up because of it.

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Try avoiding using 100 Octane if you are running cats, as it will eat them up faster. Just use your standard 93 or race 93. You can enable all those features yourself (auto blip etc, with the software)

100 octane won't hurt the cats unless it's leaded (in which case it will quickly clog them), or ethanol based (won't work with the tune anyway)

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In hotter temps you want to use at a minimum of 10w30 for track, and if you are seeing oil temps over 245F use 10w40 to keep oil pressure stable.


If he's using the oil cooler he should never get that high for temps.
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If you are not tracking in the winter use 0w20, its going to take longer for your oil to heat up and stay warm because of the cooler. The oil in the Rotrex is no issue in cold but take it easy until up to temp.

Try avoiding using 100 Octane if you are running cats, as it will eat them up faster. Just use your standard 93 or race 93. You can enable all those features yourself (auto blip etc, with the software)

In hotter temps you want to use at a minimum of 10w30 for track, and if you are seeing oil temps over 245F use 10w40 to keep oil pressure stable.
Thanks for the reply Dezoris, I appreciate your input. The install manual from Jackson indicates you should use the high octane for track use. I had a nice conversation with David from CSG this afternoon and he helped clear up a lot of my questions.

By the way, I really liked the reviews and videos you have done, especially the Ohlins video.

I am now even more certain I will be getting this system!

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okay just got my 2nd CEL on my my JRSC kitted FRS. The error was that my system is running too rich. I've had a strange feeling that it seems to run rich because my exhaust tips are black. Has anyone else encountered this problem? I had to use Torque to clear the CEL.
I would learn how to take data logs and monitor your car from time to time. You could think its fine but its really not and the ecu is compensating for a problem. You might have a leak which is causing your fuel trims to go all wild.
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The oil cooler is thermostatically controlled, so no, it's not going to take longer to warm up because of it.


100 octane won't hurt the cats unless it's leaded (in which case it will quickly clog them), or ethanol based (won't work with the tune anyway)



If he's using the oil cooler he should never get that high for temps.
Its a Mocal plate, despite its thermostat its not fully closed to prevent air lock so there is always trickle flow to the cooler.
Been through 3 plates now and talked to Mocal directly doing testing.
Problem started in winter and I removed the plate during that time.

If you are on the track and depending on the track and oil used it would be easy to hit 245F in a 30 minute session if you are flat out.

Again depends on the fuel, our tracks all run Sunoco race fuels. At autobahn there are race teams onsite who put warnings out for street cars to only use the 100+ octane without cats. They have had plenty of people with issues. It started with guys loosing cats on a Ferrari or GT3 so they warn everyone.

You don't need race fuel on a tune designed for 91/92 octane if the tune is sound, its just insurance. You should be able to know this logging right away on street and first track session.
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Thanks for the reply Dezoris, I appreciate your input. The install manual from Jackson indicates you should use the high octane for track use. I had a nice conversation with David from CSG this afternoon and he helped clear up a lot of my questions.

By the way, I really liked the reviews and videos you have done, especially the Ohlins video.

I am now even more certain I will be getting this system!

Pat
Yeah most tuners will say that for a safety net, namely in Cali where fuel is junk. MN has 93 right?

Thanks! CSG guys are pretty much the best on the forum for no BS data. I still ask Mike random shit. But in the cold midwest the JRSC is a good choice, should have little drama. Just log after you install make sure trims and no knock. Run 0w20 in winter and 10w30 or 40 in summer and have fun at the track. Keep an eye on oil temps in longer sessions and thats about it.
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I am seriously looking at getting this system. I have some questions:

Any concerns about winter with this setup? I live in MN and winters get pretty cold. I do have a heated garage and don't park outside all day, but how would this handle cold starts at 20 below?

Is the oil cooler an issue in cold climates?

Is there/will there be any other tune offered by Jackson other than the Carb tune?

I don't need the carb certification here and would like a tune that perhaps has a little more power if possible. Perhaps there is not much more left on the table?

Are the ecutech features such as racerom/autoblip and all that stuff usable/available with the current JRC factory tune?

Do I really need to use 100 octane at the track per the manual?

This looks like a great setup for me. I daily drive my car year round in MN about 15,000 miles per year and get to the track (BIR) 3-4 time a year. I definitely need more power to at the track. I can keep up with most cars in the tight sections of the track, but really fall behind on the straightaways.

And thanks in advance to the guys at CSG, you guys really are very helpful with this platform.

Thanks!

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I think David and @Dezoris got everything covered... I haven't been at a computer all day.

The 100 octane is insurance.
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okay just got my 2nd CEL on my my JRSC kitted FRS. The error was that my system is running too rich. I've had a strange feeling that it seems to run rich because my exhaust tips are black. Has anyone else encountered this problem? I had to use Torque to clear the CEL.
Did it clear itself or did you have to clear it? What was the time between the first and second CELs?

Other than your catback, do you have any other breathing mods?
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