Jackson Racing Supercharger Owners Thread

[Sellout]

Idk if that's a 60' time since it looks too quick.

60' is not the same thing as 0-60mph. It's the time it took for the car to travel 60 feet. Tells you how quickly you got off the line.

That's an impressive trap speed. Several MPH faster than I expected.

[tahdizzle]

Originally Posted by Yui-Chan

That slip is actually pretty dang impressive! Low 13s, wow. Idk if that's a 60' time since it looks too quick. Those times are as good as and better than many stock <$40k sportscars I believe.

Was this with JRSC on stock engine?

What mods, exh, bolt ons and tune do you have?

that 60' is about average.... Quick side of average though. There is a guy that ran high 13s NA due to having a 1.6 60'.

[4032pauln]

Originally Posted by Yui-Chan

That slip is actually pretty dang impressive! Low 13s, wow. Idk if that's a 60' time since it looks too quick. Those times are as good as and better than many stock <$40k sportscars I believe.

Was this with JRSC on stock engine?

What mods, exh, bolt ons and tune do you have?

I think you are confusing 60 ft vs 0-60mph. 60 ft shows how well you are launching the car from the start.

I am on the stock engine. My mods are gutted headers, perrin overpipe, isis front pipe, q300 catback, flexfuel, and tuned by HRI tuning

[Yui-Chan]

Ah..ya, I thought/meant 0-60mph times. Didn't know it was 60'. What do I know lol? I'm not a drag racer and I haven't been on one of those tracks in 20 years lol.

[CSG David]

60' is usually reaction time and how well you and your car pull out of the hole... no pun intended.

[Yui-Chan]

Ah..thx for your specs.

Catless fp too? So basically no cats at all?

So you were running e85 or a mixture of it?

What are you dynoing at?

[Carolina Dyno]

60' is the time it takes for your car to travel 60 feet. Your reaction time isn't determined by this. When the light turns green, that doesn't mean your time has started ticking, it starts when you trip the beams.

In hind site, you can sit at a green bulb for 5 seconds and still run your same (or close) time as if you tried to leave right at the drop of the green.

[Yui-Chan]

Originally Posted by CSG David

60' is usually reaction time and how well you and your car pull out of the hole... no pun intended.

Ya, that's how girls get pregnant. Haha.

[CSG David]

Originally Posted by Carolina Dyno

60' is the time it takes for your car to travel 60 feet. Your reaction time isn't determined by this. When the light turns green, that doesn't mean your time has started ticking, it starts when you trip the beams.

In hind site, you can sit at a green bulb for 5 seconds and still run your same (or close) time as if you tried to leave right at the drop of the green.

I think I got that mixed up with R/T. LOL...shows me how much I've paid attention to drag racing these days.

[4032pauln]

Originally Posted by Yui-Chan

Ah..thx for your specs.

Catless fp too? So basically no cats at all if yes?

So you were running e85 or a mixture of it?

What are you dynoing at?

yeah i have no cats, that where the real power comes from.

yeah I was running e85 but it did help me a tiny bit the drag strip. I was able to hit 13.4 at 105 trap on pump gas.

On virtual dyno i am making 308hp. In reference, the carb tune made 212 hp on the virtual dyno. But you cant really take much from it since its not on a real dyno

[sw20kosh]

Originally Posted by 4032pauln

yeah i have no cats, that where the real power comes from.

yeah I was running e85 but it did help me a tiny bit the drag strip. I was able to hit 13.4 at 105 trap on pump gas.

On virtual dyno i am making 308hp. In reference, the carb tune made 212 hp on the virtual dyno. But you cant really take much from it since its not on a real dyno

Lol that delta.

Carb tune is hella conservative

[Yui-Chan]

Originally Posted by DeliciousTuning

We have finally gotten around to posting some results on the Jackson Racing Supercharger Kit Tune we did versus the CARB tune provided by Jackson Racing, versus stock.



The Jackson Racing tune surprisingly is a good tune right out of the bag, though our customer did mention it had a very light hesitation under partial throttle, light load in the low to mid power band, 3000-4000 RPM. As mentioned by our customer we took it for a quick spin to replicate the issue and did notice it a bit, not a lot, but it was noticeable, so that was something we made sure to focus on.

So after the tune there really was not much room for improvement in power, but we did manage to get a few more horsepower on top and torque in the mid range on 91 octane. But I will say on 7 PSI there is only so much you can do to make power and wish there was more boost to make more power.

In any case we did manage to remove the hesitation issue the customer was speaking about by switching to a pure speed density tune and that allowed us to add FlexFuel into the tune very easily by using the MAF sensor voltage input. This keep installation of the FlexFuel kit easy (basically all you need to do is pop your hood and install) and that allows all your readiness monitors to complete properly for smog.

Cheers,
William Knose
Delicious Tuning

@DeliciousTuning:

I have a couple Qs:

- was this on a totally stock car (stock headers/fp/exh)?

- will your tune work on both a stock catted header setup and also a aftermarket uncatted header? (Unlike the JR CARB tune, which only works with oem header/fp because of VE sensitivity).

- if yes, to the above question, how and why can your tune work with both aftermarket uncatted and also oem catted? Is it because your SD tune isn't affected by changing oem headers to aftermarket uncatted headers, because SD tunes don't get affected by VE changes made from changing exh setups?

- if no, then is a separate tune needed (similar to the JR CARB tune) for each setup (one tune for oem catted header, and a different tune for aftermarket uncatted header)?

- does your OTS e-tune work with this JRSC setup- using 91oct, aftermarket uncatted header, and stock everything else (stock op/fp/catback exh)?


If I got the JRSC, I would want just an aftermarket uncatted header with a corresponding tune, and keep everything else stock (op/fp/catback), to keep things quiet and sleeper (and non ricey lol)....while still being able to make a little extra power from the uncatted headers and new tune. Also wanting to keep at least one cat (the fp cat), to keep the nasty smells down.

My goal/desire would be:
- JRSC, tune, JDL or Tomei uncatted header, stock oem op/fp/exh: for the majority of the time
- JRSC, and swap to JR CARB tune, oem header: for smog day



Thx.

[Suddenly...]

@DeliciousTuning

From what I hear the guys at Delicious have never done an AT JRSC tune before. Can you shed some light on this? If not, would it require a lot of effort on your part?

I know the CARB tune is pretty good out of the box but I don't plan on having any CATs in my setup so I would like to know how a custom (remote) tune would work out for me from Delicious?

[DeliciousTuning]

Originally Posted by Yui-Chan

@DeliciousTuning:

I have a couple Qs:

- was this on a totally stock car (stock headers/fp/exh)?

- will your tune work on both a stock catted header setup and also a aftermarket uncatted header? (Unlike the JR CARB tune, which only works with oem header/fp because of VE sensitivity).

- if yes, to the above question, how and why can your tune work with both aftermarket uncatted and also oem catted? Is it because your SD tune isn't affected by changing oem headers to aftermarket uncatted headers, because SD tunes don't get affected by VE changes made from changing exh setups?

- if no, then is a separate tune needed (similar to the JR CARB tune) for each setup (one tune for oem catted header, and a different tune for aftermarket uncatted header)?

- does your OTS e-tune work with this JRSC setup- using 91oct, aftermarket uncatted header, and stock everything else (stock op/fp/catback exh)?


If I got the JRSC, I would want just an aftermarket uncatted header with a corresponding tune, and keep everything else stock (op/fp/catback), to keep things quiet and sleeper (and non ricey lol)....while still being able to make a little extra power from the uncatted headers and new tune. Also wanting to keep at least one cat (the fp cat), to keep the nasty smells down.

My goal/desire would be:
- JRSC, tune, JDL or Tomei uncatted header, stock oem op/fp/exh: for the majority of the time
- JRSC, and swap to JR CARB tune, oem header: for smog day



Thx.

Sorry for not getting back earlier, I have been traveling all over SoCal in meetings and tuning. But to answer your questions.

1. Yes this was a totally stock car, same car, same day, no changes accept for the tune.
2. Yes, our tune will work with both a stock exhaust and aftermarket exhaust systems, including headers.
3. We are using purely VE tables / speed density to tune the vehicle along with a combination of EcuTeK custom tables we have developed for proper fueling in almost any scenario. These tunes are usually based on stock exhaust system which offer more back pressure and in turn restrict the amount of ignition advance, and cam advance you can run. But the tune will just be a little soft when you open up the exhaust, but still function and run properly.
4. Now if you do change parts, we always offer custom remote tuning tweaks on the tune to see if we can get a little more out of the tune. We would work on the cam angles, timing and potentially the fuel a bit to lean it out if needed.
5. Yes
6. I would think with a slight tweak to the tune we would get a little more power out of the vehicle wiht an aftermarket header on the vehicle, though hard to say until it is done.

Hope that answers your questions,

Cheers,
William Knose
Delicious Tuning