Jackson Racing Supercharger Owners Thread

[TONYpepperon1]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

There is no "stage 2" or "version 2". "Staged" upgrades make me think of Neon SRT4's, and Civics that have "stage 4 turbo kits".

You can always revert to CARB form with the CARB tune. All you need to do is put in the time or money required to swap the parts and tune.

Jackson Racing will not be releasing any additional tunes for various bolt-on setups. There are simply too many permutations. With just 5 header options, 5 overpipe options, 5 midpipe options, and 20 catback options, you're already at 2500 permutations. I'm just throwing out numbers; there are more than 5 of each of the above options. If you need a custom tune, then just go to the tuner of your choice, and get a tune.

With that said, you don't need a custom tune for just a catback right?

[Pat]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

It REALLY depends on your ambient conditions. You can possibly see anywhere from 7psi to 11 psi, but most people will see 9-10. 7psi would be if you're in REALLY high elevation (e.g. going over the grapevine), and 11 psi would be if you're in death valley.

PSI is one of those YMMV things. You will never see the same PSI everywhere, no matter what forced induction kit you go with.

I'm not familiar with the grapevine. What altitude is that at?

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Pat

I'm not familiar with the grapevine. What altitude is that at?

4160 ft. It frequently gets shut down in the winter when it rain/snows/sleets due to the local terrain features causing the area have lower barometric pressure than what the altitude calls for.

Seeing 12 psi ambient isn't uncommon there; boosted cars struggle to make their full power in the area.

[gbrz]

Originally Posted by Pat

I'm not familiar with the grapevine. What altitude is that at?

Less than a mile up, approx 4,100 ft

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by TONYpepperon1

With that said, you don't need a custom tune for just a catback right?

As long as you have the OEM cats, correct, you don't need a custom tune for just a catback, or even a midpipe + catback.

[Yui-Chan]

Ok, so JR isn't releasing a whole new separate upgraded "staged" kit. Thanks for clearing that up. Makes sense and also makes it simpler to choose.

But, they are coming out with upgrade "parts" and options for their current and only kit, correct?

If so, what will those upgraded "parts" be??

A smaller pulley I'm sure. Will it be a classified 11, 12, 13, 14psi pulley?

Fuel pump, injectors, maf sensor?

Anything else?

Any new dyno numbers and info from these new upgrade pulleys and parts yet?

If not, and if you can't share just yet...approx when will we hear the news?

[Calum]

Originally Posted by Yui-Chan

Ok, so JR isn't releasing a whole new separate upgraded "staged" kit. Thanks for clearing that up. Makes sense and also makes it simpler to choose.

But, they are coming out with upgrade "parts" and options for their current and only kit, correct?

If so, what will those upgraded "parts" be??

A smaller pulley I'm sure. Will it be a classified 11, 12, 13, 14psi pulley?

Fuel pump, injectors, maf sensor?

Anything else?

Any new dyno numbers and info from these new upgrade pulleys and parts yet?

If not, and if you can't share just yet...approx when will we hear the news?

A non-disclosure agreement precludes the signee from even admitting to the existence of the NDA. While I'm sure you are asking the right questions, those that are in a position to answer would face legal repersussions if they did answer. Wait and see. This stuff has been ongoing for a while, it can't be far off now.

[Yui-Chan]

I've really fallen in love with this kit after lots of reading. I never was interested in FI for the 86 (been there and done that with older cars) but this kit's reliability, durability, quality fitment and ease of installation, CARB legal status and also JR's history changed my mind. This kit is the best choice for me (and several others too I'm sure), than ANY and ALL the other sc or turbo kits out there currently. I was almost certain to just sticking with NA and being close to stock engine/power (for reliability, simplicity and being smog legal)...but, I dont mind going FI anymore with this JRSC kit, and I really want it now.

I just wish there were much more videos though (for entertainment)!!! I mean, there's so many users and owners of this kit now!!! And there's like what..? 2-5 low quality iPhone YouTube clips!!! What's going on lol? I guess they're having too much fun with it haha

Maybe someone should really think about lending their JRSC FT86 to a quality YouTube video channel for a proper and quality video review and comparison too maybe. Preferably with /Drive (with Chris Harris) or Motor Trend (with Randy Pobst) behind the wheel at the track. And maybe even also compared to a Porsche Cayman S or 996 Base (since they would have similar power, weight, handling, balance and track abilities to a JRSC 86). That would make for a super excellent video!!!

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Yui-Chan

I've really fallen in love with this kit after lots of reading. I never was interested in FI for the 86 (been there and done that with older cars) but this kit's reliability, durability, quality fitment and ease of installation, CARB legal status and also JR's history changed my mind. This kit is the best choice for me (and several others too I'm sure), than ANY and ALL the other sc or turbo kits out there currently. I was almost certain to just sticking with NA and being close to stock engine/power (for reliability, simplicity and being smog legal)...but, I dont mind going FI anymore with this JRSC kit, and I really want it now.

I just wish there were much more videos though (for entertainment)!!! I mean, there's so many users and owners of this kit now!!! And there's like what..? 2-5 low quality iPhone YouTube clips!!! What's going on lol? I guess they're having too much fun with it haha

Maybe someone should really think about lending their JRSC FT86 to a quality YouTube video channel for a proper and quality video review and comparison too maybe. Preferably with /Drive (with Chris Harris) or Motor Trend (with Randy Pobst) behind the wheel at the track. And maybe even also compared to a Porsche Cayman S or 996 Base (since they would have similar power, weight, handling, balance and track abilities to a JRSC 86). That would make for a super excellent video!!!

I've entertained the though of having forum members crowdfund a day at the track with Randy driving; his rates are surprisingly affordable.

I also figure there are plenty of talented videographers, DPs, editors, photographers, etc on the forum that would be willing to take a day off of their work to donate their time to this effort.

I've even solicited the various FI kit manufacturers to provide their cars for such a comparison. Alas, only a small handful are willing to allow this sort of test, even with a seasoned pro like Randy driving; Randy is known to have a lot of mechanical sympathy, and doesn't destroy cars.

*edit* I recall a manufacturer huffing and puffing about how I'm lacking as a driver but their list of drivers would be satisfactory. I agreed to their terms, and never heard back from them...

[sw20kosh]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

I've entertained the though of having forum members crowdfund a day at the track with Randy driving; his rates are surprisingly affordable.

I also figure there are plenty of talented videographers, DPs, editors, photographers, etc on the forum that would be willing to take a day off of their work to donate their time to this effort.

I've even solicited the various FI kit manufacturers to provide their cars for such a comparison. Alas, only a small handful are willing to allow this sort of test, even with a seasoned pro like Randy driving; Randy is known to have a lot of mechanical sympathy, and doesn't destroy cars.

*edit* I recall a manufacturer huffing and puffing about how I'm lacking as a driver but their list of drivers would be satisfactory. I agreed to their terms, and never heard back from them...

This would be SO EPIC. I'd donate to this.

[Yui-Chan]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

I've entertained the though of having forum members crowdfund a day at the track with Randy driving; his rates are surprisingly affordable.

I also figure there are plenty of talented videographers, DPs, editors, photographers, etc on the forum that would be willing to take a day off of their work to donate their time to this effort.

I've even solicited the various FI kit manufacturers to provide their cars for such a comparison. Alas, only a small handful are willing to allow this sort of test, even with a seasoned pro like Randy driving; Randy is known to have a lot of mechanical sympathy, and doesn't destroy cars.

*edit* I recall a manufacturer huffing and puffing about how I'm lacking as a driver but their list of drivers would be satisfactory. I agreed to their terms, and never heard back from them...

This would be amazing!

You're right...there is more than enough talented videographers, editors, writers and even entertaining and funny hosts within this board and the FT community...that all we really probably need is Randy Pobst! We don't need /Drive or Motor Trend to make a great video! (though, it wouldn't hurt and they're always welcome to make one hehehe ) This sounds like a very realistic and possible project.

As for comparing against other FI/SC kits, imo, I think this wouldn't be a good idea at all. All this would be is a "SC FI company war". The differences on track would be negligible, very small and down to nitpicking if it compares just power..since driver skill, the myriad of various suspension mods and actually being driven on the track, would make much more of a difference on track obviously than just the SC kits itself (which will all have relatively the same psi and power outputs).

I think comparing against similarly performance cars and popularly sought after track cars (Cayman S or base 911) would be much more interesting.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Yui-Chan

I think comparing against similarly performance cars and popularly sought after track cars (Cayman S or base 911) would be much more interesting.

Are you going to provide the cars, as well as insurance for those cars?

I wouldn't consider a Cayman S or a 911 a "sought after track car".

[Yui-Chan]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Are you going to provide the cars, as well as insurance for those cars?

I wouldn't consider a Cayman S or a 911 a "sought after track car".

Ok..I can provide them. Lol jk.

Ya, maybe so...I meant they are a sought after overall "dream" street car I guess (that's more than capable at the track in stock form). I'm sure there is many more sought after "track" cars (bmw, miata, s2k, and so on)..but those comparisons would be boring since they are the same price and easier to be attained.

Cayman would be good for comparison, because it's something that many want, but cannot afford, and is also one of the best handling/balanced engineered cars ever made. It sets the bar for an ultimate stock track ready vehicle (for a non supercar).

[4032pauln]

Originally Posted by Yui-Chan

I've really fallen in love with this kit after lots of reading. I never was interested in FI for the 86 (been there and done that with older cars) but this kit's reliability, durability, quality fitment and ease of installation, CARB legal status and also JR's history changed my mind. This kit is the best choice for me (and several others too I'm sure), than ANY and ALL the other sc or turbo kits out there currently. I was almost certain to just sticking with NA and being close to stock engine/power (for reliability, simplicity and being smog legal)...but, I dont mind going FI anymore with this JRSC kit, and I really want it now.

I just wish there were much more videos though (for entertainment)!!! I mean, there's so many users and owners of this kit now!!! And there's like what..? 2-5 low quality iPhone YouTube clips!!! What's going on lol? I guess they're having too much fun with it haha

Maybe someone should really think about lending their JRSC FT86 to a quality YouTube video channel for a proper and quality video review and comparison too maybe. Preferably with /Drive (with Chris Harris) or Motor Trend (with Randy Pobst) behind the wheel at the track. And maybe even also compared to a Porsche Cayman S or 996 Base (since they would have similar power, weight, handling, balance and track abilities to a JRSC 86). That would make for a super excellent video!!!

heres a small video in comparison to a GTR hehe