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Old 02-19-2014, 08:47 PM   #15
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How would you compare the W3 and W4 pads for autox duty on street tire? Price shipped to 91206?
Recommend W3 for autocross duty on street tire or R-comps. For those looking for an entry into autocross with better bite and modulation on street tires on near stock car, W2 is good as well. PM'd you pricing even though GB information is posted in GB section.
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Opinions on the w4 vs. Hc+800? I though I had decided on a set but this is an optiion I wasnt aware of.

It will be autox/hpde and its my frist year. Im running Bridgestone Potenza s-04 on stock power if any of the makes a difference. @CSG Mike @CSG David
W4 will have less bite and max temp capacity than the HC+800. You can't go wrong with either since you're a less experienced driver, but be prepared to need a higher grade pad by the time you finish off your first set ( it'll take a while! )
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Why no ceramic?

I was looking at cl5+ and they have the pros of steel pad
But less cons in general ( dust,noise,durability) just the price is higher IMHO.

What's your opinion compared to these new solution. @CSG Mike
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Why no ceramic?

I was looking at cl5+ and they have the pros of steel pad
But less cons in general ( dust,noise,durability) just the price is higher IMHO.

What's your opinion compared to these new solution. @CSG Mike
We carry the full line of CL pads. Which Winmax are you trying to compare them to?

I like lapping in a W4; they stay consistent throughout the entire temperature range, and are very easy to modulate. I'd personally prefer more bite, but the W4's consistency is it's outstanding characteristic.
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Very nice! hows the pricing on the WE1 vs W5?
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We carry the full line of CL pads. Which Winmax are you trying to compare them to?

I like lapping in a W4; they stay consistent throughout the entire temperature range, and are very easy to modulate. I'd personally prefer more bite, but the W4's consistency is it's outstanding characteristic.
Was comparing them to w2-w3-w4.
CL pad are quite expensive but awesome in my opinion what pad of win max would come closer to the cl5+? why winmax is not selling any ceramic pads?
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Was comparing them to w2-w3-w4.
CL pad are quite expensive but awesome in my opinion what pad of win max would come closer to the cl5+? why winmax is not selling any ceramic pads?
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W7's might be a tad too aggressive for your normal BRZ/FRS IMO. Back in the day I loved massive initial bite but it can make it harder to control/modulate properly in my experience. I actually prefer a pad that's consistent across the temp range. That's what I LOVE about the CL pads actually.

I am excited a little about the WE1s maybe in Integra fitment for the chumpcar. They appear very inconsistent until you consider the car does 2 hour stints in actual racing conditions so brakes temps don't vary as much..

For these I think the average BRZ/FRS track driver would be good with the W4-W6 range, the W5 look good except for the rotor wear part. I wish the W6 were a bit more consistent.

This is all based on graphs and stuff though.
Just added WE1 to the website and GB thread. Don't you use CL6E for endurance though? I know CT RP2 and PMU Racing Sintered are comparable.
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Just added WE1 to the website and GB thread. Don't you use CL6E for endurance though? I know CT RP2 and PMU Racing Sintered are comparable.
Race car normally runs raybestos ST42. Great pad life.

Race car also doesn't have an engine right now.
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Race car normally runs raybestos ST42. Great pad life.

Race car also doesn't have an engine right now.
You may have given away too many secrets about how you cut weight off your racecars.
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Which brake pads should I get for street? Winamx W1, Stock brake pads, or Stoptech?
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Which brake pads should I get for street? Winamx W1, Stock brake pads, or Stoptech?
Winmax W1 and W2 are good OE replacement brake pads with much better bite. Stoptech is a good brake pad solution as well. W1 will be the direct OE replacement similar to Project Mu Type NS400 and Carbotech 1521 where dust is very minimal and noise is non-existent.
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You may have given away too many secrets about how you cut weight off your racecars.
That's ok, few SE Chumpcar guys are on here lol
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Which brake pads should I get for street? Winamx W1, Stock brake pads, or Stoptech?
David already answered you, but what do you find lacking about the OEM pads? What specifically do you care about? What aspect of a performance pad would be most annoying to you? (ie dust, noise, etc)
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