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ramiram1984 · 12-31-2013, 02:50 PM

Oils like 70 bucks a bottle!! Haha

Ralph Spoilsport · 12-31-2013, 03:04 PM

Noticed that too (more like $100 a bottle).

Sellout · 12-31-2013, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Intake temps say it all...

I would think the intake temp says a lot about intercooler efficiency and almost nothing about the supercharger's efficiency.

Wouldn't you need to see the temps right at the superchargers discharge (before the intercooler) to say anything about thermal efficiency of the superchargers?

Calum · 12-31-2013, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sellout

I would think the intake temp says a lot about intercooler efficiency and almost nothing about the supercharger's efficiency.

Wouldn't you need to see the temps right at the superchargers discharge (before the intercooler) to say anything about thermal efficiency of the superchargers?

I agree, but will take it one step further. You'd need to see the temperature and pressure change across the compressor.

CSG Mike · 12-31-2013, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calum

I agree, but will take it one step further. You'd need to see the temperature and pressure change across the compressor.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sellout

I would think the intake temp says a lot about intercooler efficiency and almost nothing about the supercharger's efficiency.

Wouldn't you need to see the temps right at the superchargers discharge (before the intercooler) to say anything about thermal efficiency of the superchargers?

Intercooling doesn't increase air output. It actually decreases air mass going into the engine, due to increased resistance. However, it alow lowers intake temperature, allowing you to tune more aggressively without risk.

Efficiency could be summed up as how much (or how little) excess heat is added to the intake charge, beyond the heat that is generated from compression.

Calum · 12-31-2013, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Intercooling doesn't increase air output. It actually decreases air mass going into the engine, due to increased resistance. However, it alow lowers intake temperature, allowing you to tune more aggressively without risk.

Efficiency could be summed up as how much (or how little) excess heat is added to the intake charge, beyond the heat that is generated from compression.

The discussion was about compressor efficiency alone, not the systems efficiency. Otherwise I'd agree.

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CSG Mike · 12-31-2013, 07:33 PM

Need compressor maps for that...

CSG Mike · 12-31-2013, 07:34 PM

Track Shakedown

[ame]http://youtu.be/-r7EgQGxA4g[/ame]

OICU812 · 12-31-2013, 09:13 PM

Great video and info.

Question ... Do you keep stock snorkel air inlet behind bumper or just remove it all together? Just curious given placement of the filter for JR kit.

airmanmurphy02 · 12-31-2013, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OICU812

Great video and info.

Question ... Do you keep stock snorkel air inlet behind bumper or just remove it all together? Just curious given placement of the filter for JR kit.

It is removed all together

OICU812 · 12-31-2013, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by airmanmurphy02

It is removed all together

Ok just to be 100% we're speaking on same piece as per picture I'm referring to what's labelled fresh air scoop. That piece is then permanently removed correct and that is what manual calls for??

CSG Mike · 12-31-2013, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by OICU812

Ok just to be 100% we're speaking on same piece as per picture I'm referring to what's labelled fresh air scoop. That piece is then permanently removed correct and that is what manual calls for??

Yes, it is removed, and air from that area blows directly over the air filter.

OICU812 · 12-31-2013, 10:13 PM

Thanks guys just want to be sure cause I'm 95+% on this kit now.

airmanmurphy02 · 01-01-2014, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by OICU812

Thanks guys just want to be sure cause I'm 95+% on this kit now.

Do it. You won't regret it! Just what this car needs.

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