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Old 12-22-2013, 11:56 PM   #43
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Interesting....will be telling to see the dynos as well.
It's no different from the past Rotrex cars we've set up. Gradual torque build that you don't feel.
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Old 12-23-2013, 12:00 AM   #44
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Car doesn't feel fast. At all. Feels naturally aspirated.

Except, I had no problem pulling on a stock Evo 9. Couldn't take a bolt-on 335 though.

Stock evo 9's still exist?
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Old 12-23-2013, 11:14 AM   #45
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Stock evo 9's still exist?
I see your stock Evo9 and raise you an FD.

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/cto/4255747788.html

Stock Evos are fairly common in SoCal
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Old 12-23-2013, 12:16 PM   #46
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Installation thoughts
- The kit was very easy to install. It took me about 8 hours, start to finish, taking my sweet time, taking some photos (and sending it to other CSG staff to upload to our facebook), and taking notes. This includes time spent to install EcuTek Software on my laptop, flashing, burping the system, everything.
- Fitment was dead on. Zero additional parts were necessary.
- I was able to complete the install, alone, on my garage floor, with nothing but basic tools. I am not a mechanic, but I am the "DIY" type, where I do everything at least once, so that I understand how to fix it or at least address it if something goes wrong.
- Instructions come in a series of small steps, and then are illustrated with a single picture, that shows exactly how everything should look. I referenced the pictures several times to make sure I had everything installed and routed exactly how Jackson Racing intended.

Initial Impressions
- The kit is quiet. You'll hear the supercharger slightly during the "warm up" phase after initial startup, but after that you will almost never hear it.
- You WILL hear the supercharger under these conditions:
-- High RPM (over 4.5k)
-- Low speeds (under 10 mph)
- You won't really hear the supercharger with the windows closed and music on.
- The kit just keep growing in power as you rev up, but you won't feel it at all. As the RPMs climb, the power keeps building.

Notes
- Partial throttle cruising power is SUBSTANTIALLY increased. You'll notice increased power under street driving conditions
- WOT response is instantaneous, as is expected with a supercharger.
- Nobody knows this car is boosted.
- The car starts, idles, and runs exactly the way it does stock. Those of you guys who have run aftermarket boost or big turbos in the past know how important this is!

- The intake for the Jackson Racing kit is NOT A HOT AIR INTAKE. The filter is located exactly behind the stock intake hole, where the stock intake sucks in its air from. The filter is NOT sucking in hot air. It does mix with air going through the radiator, but when you're moving, you have cold air going directly to the filter. I took this picture while driving around town to get a feel for the kit. It is PROOF, that the intake location works. When installing the kit myself, I realized that the stock intake hole is why they specifically chose this place to put the intake filter.

MAP = Manifold Air Pressure (pressure inside intake manifold; ambient air + boost in this case in PSI)
BARO = Barometric pressure (ambient air pressure in PSI)
IAT = Intake Air Temp (in Fahrenheit degrees)
AAT = Ambient Air Temp (in Fahrenheit degrees)



Tools used:
- 1/4" drive ratchet
-- 8mm, 10mm, 14mm sockets
- 3/8" drive ratchet
-- 10mm, 12mm sockets
-- 6" extension
- 1/2" drive ratchet
-- 14mm socket, 19mm socket
- Cordless impact (for taking of wheels)
- pliers
- knife
- small flathead screwdriver and small philips screwdriver







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I helped supervise Mike's work for a brief period of time to ensure he wasn't breaking anything (CSG staff is very cautious with any build...) and he assured me that I should not help out since he wanted to record the time it took to complete installation. By sweet time, I'm talking about reading the instruction, taking a sip of tea, listening to Nujabes, texting, reflecting on some Confucius philosophy, munching on cookies, and then picking up some tools to get working again.
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Old 12-23-2013, 02:29 PM   #48
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Side note: 8 hours of streaming music over bluetooth does not drain the BRZ battery.
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Old 12-23-2013, 05:47 PM   #49
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I see your stock Evo9 and raise you an FD.

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/cto/4255747788.html

Stock Evos are fairly common in SoCal
'94 15K miles - $25500

Good lawd... this thing is almost new and costs about the same as one.
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Old 12-23-2013, 06:06 PM   #50
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'94 15K miles - $25500

Good lawd... this thing is almost new and costs about the same as one.
You think the FD cost about 25k new?
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Old 12-23-2013, 06:15 PM   #51
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You think the FD cost about 25k new?
IIRC - they were 35-40k, depending on the options. That was back in 1994! That is equivalent to ~60k today

I agree, 25k doesn't seem too bad for an FD in that condition.

BTW...nice build CSG. Looking forward to seeing how it all plays out.
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Old 12-23-2013, 06:31 PM   #52
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I wanna see driving video. In car.

If I keep the fa20, this is the route I'll most likely go
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Old 12-23-2013, 06:46 PM   #53
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I wanna see driving video. In car.

If I keep the fa20, this is the route I'll most likely go
soon....
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You think the FD cost about 25k new?
Weren't they somewhere around $29K back in 93?
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Old 12-24-2013, 12:14 AM   #55
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Weren't they somewhere around $29K back in 93?
Base model MSRP was about 35k
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Dyno
- This is the CARB legal tune that is included with the "Factory Tuned" version of the kit.
- The car is 100% stock, except for the Jackson Racing Supercharger kit and the CARB legal tune
- Even the engine oil is the factory fill.
- The torque dip is essentially completely eliminated
- Powerband is far more linear than stock

- +70whp and +40wtq!

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