Combating the heat

[Sellout]

^ and it will still overheat on the track. These cars have a cooling system designed for carrying groceries. Turbo location isn't going to change that.

[carlossanchez89]

Originally Posted by Sellout

^ and it will still overheat on the track. These cars have a cooling system designed for carrying groceries. Turbo location isn't going to change that.

And turbos are always best when they are closest to the engine. The further away you go the more lines you gotta run.

[AVOturboworld]

One of the important reasons we designed our turbo with the stock location of a FA20DIT in mind is because the air flow through the front was designed to go through the radiator then underneath the engine, not over the engine. Even the undertray was designed for this with two air slots at the front. By stock location, we mean underneath, at the front where the exhaust manifold is.

[cplabaunza]

When I had my SRT4 there was this Mesh Hood that came out for better cooling than using vented and louvered hoods:

Pic from SRTForum

[Blown_xa]

Originally Posted by Sellout

^ and it will still overheat on the track. These cars have a cooling system designed for carrying groceries. Turbo location isn't going to change that.

Keeping the turbo out of the engine bay , and away from the radiator can only aide in cooling capability. Also, placement of the intercooler along with the core quality has effect on how much air makes it through the radiator. I quadrupled the power of my Scion, still have the stock radiator. I have competed in at least 7 Time Attacks/ Time Trials. Don't get me wrong, it is a good idea to improve cooling when increasing power, but turbo kit design DOES make a difference.

[Sellout]

Originally Posted by Blown_xa

Keeping the turbo out of the engine bay , and away from the radiator can only aide in cooling capability. Also, placement of the intercooler along with the core quality has effect on how much air makes it through the radiator. I quadrupled the power of my Scion, still have the stock radiator. I have competed in at least 7 Time Attacks/ Time Trials. Don't get me wrong, it is a good idea to improve cooling when increasing power, but turbo kit design DOES make a difference.

Big enough difference to prevent a turbo 86 from overheating on the track, given the fact that STOCK 86s have overheated on the track because the cooling system is NOT GOOD ENOUGH?

You're talking about something that's completely an aside from what I said.

[Blown_xa]

Originally Posted by Sellout

Big enough difference to prevent a turbo 86 from overheating on the track, given the fact that STOCK 86s have overheated on the track because the cooling system is NOT GOOD ENOUGH?

You're talking about something that's completely an aside from what I said.

you stated that turbo location has no effect on heat. You are directly refering to the cooling system, this topic is about heat in general... keep that in mind. But still, you are missing my point, a turbo kit that doesn't run exhaust components under the hood and 2 inchs from the radiator, and one that doesn't eliminate the factory fans and shroud will yield better results in cooling capability . Do you dissagree? I think a turbo kit designed for use with a huge radiator with no fitment issues will yield better results , do you dissagree ? I think a turbo kit designed around a oil cooler kit for opitimal cooler placement and line routing will only produce better results on the track.

[Sellout]

Originally Posted by Blown_xa

you stated that turbo location has no effect on heat.

No I didn't. I said turbo location isn't going to change the fact that the car's cooling system is not good enough.

Nice edit. I think you're trying to turn this discussion into a Ptuning advertisement rather than deal with the fact that you misunderstood what I said. Do you "dissagree"?

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by Sellout

I think you're trying to turn this discussion into a Ptuning advertisement rather than deal with the fact that you misunderstood what I said. Do you "dissagree"?

Heat in a sealed engine bay is still heat in a sealed engine bay regardless of where the turbo is mounted. The discussion is about how best to deal with that heat whether through upgrading cooling components, better channeling air, or unsealing the engine bay with venting.

[Dinko]

Originally Posted by King Tut

Heat in a sealed engine bay is still heat in a sealed engine bay regardless of where the turbo is mounted. The discussion is about how best to deal with that heat whether through upgrading cooling components, better channeling air, or unsealing the engine bay with venting.

I agree we should try to stay on topic of how to reduce heat in the engine bay regardless of what FI people go with. Going back onto topic, is it possible to buy the ings body kit in the USA? Ive looked around and cant find a distributor that will sell in the states.

[shaunsweeney]

I disagree that talking about turbo placement should be off limits. It has everything to do with the topic. You can put the best cooling system in the world in the car, but a turbo being placed right behind it negates much of it. You have to think about heat in terms of the entire package when going turbo.

Location of turbo
Cooling capacity of radiator
Capacity of fans
Design of fan shroud
Placement of intercooler/other coolers
Air ducting and ventilation

If you don't have a complete plan, you will always be chasing the heat issue.

[Dinko]

I was more thinking that we are beating a dead horse at this point. There is many a comment on where/where not it should be located. I agree location of turbo shouldn't be off limits, I would just like to see some more comments in regards to the other topic's.

[Dipstik-sportech]

What about all the civics, talons, eclipses, etc that have a turbo mounted right behind the rad? None of them have overheating issues that I've ever heard of.

The Frozen North

[shaunsweeney]

Originally Posted by Dipstik-sportech

What about all the civics, talons, eclipses, etc that have a turbo mounted right behind the rad? None of them have overheating issues that I've ever heard of.

The Frozen North

And which of those have a sealed engine compartment? Oh yeah none of them.