Drift-Office : Jackson Racing Supercharger Installed! (Tune Tommorow!)

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by grostoine

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Stop typing, close the laptop/shut down the desktop, and eat some crêpes or something, Frenchie.

[Victor Draken]

Hold on, probably is my fault. I should have said: trustwhorty tuner that I know.

Just because they can tune FA20 It doesn't mean they do it a lot or even at all.

As far as I know in Italy there are very few FA20 and in general in Europe there aren't as much as in American/Japan.
They don't let you order new gt86 anymore in Italy, you have to buy the one they have already at the dealer, so if it's the color you like good... if it's not.. you can fuck off.
(happened to me)

Now what i'm trying to say is: I don't trust a tuner that as seen the model of my car for the first time and I'm the first one to receive a tune on that specific model.
If you tell me that no matter what If a tuner is good in tuning other car it doesn't matter what type of car it is.. it will more or less always do good tune even on other different type of car... then it's another story... but I don't believe it is that easy...

[grostoine]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

Stop typing, close the laptop/shut down the desktop, and eat some crêpes or something, Frenchie.

hahaha maybe you should do the same my lord enthusiast lolll

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by grostoine

hahaha maybe you should do the same my lord enthusiast lolll

You took that really well. Bravo.

I prefer mine with nutella, and I don't have any nutella at this location unfortunately.

[invzabomaster]

Originally Posted by Victor Draken

Looks like you don't really get it, AS FAR AS I KNOW there are NO TUNER in my COUNTRY that TUNE GT86.

In EUROPE that I know the only place is ENGLAND. Now do You think I could srsly drive to UK just for a tune and then at the first problem have my car grounded for ages?

So the answer to my whole question is simple: If you want a S/C and You haven't access to a proper TUNER/DYNO you should look elsewhere and buy another kit.

Jackson Racing sells a complete system that comes with a CARB approved tune, yes? So, you wouldn't need to actually take it in to get tuned, right?

[grostoine]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

You took that really well. Bravo.

I prefer mine with nutella, and I don't have any nutella at this location unfortunately.

You should take it with real maple syrup or Toblerone melted chocolate. SOOOO GOOOD

[Calum]

Originally Posted by grostoine

You should take it with real maple syrup or Toblerone melted chocolate. SOOOO GOOOD

Aunt Jemima is better. And before you ask, yes I have had real maple syrup made in front of my eyes from a tree I tapped myself.

[OrbitalEllipses]

[grostoine]

Sorry

Back on topic loll

[Drift-Office]

Originally Posted by invzabomaster

Jackson Racing sells a complete system that comes with a CARB approved tune, yes? So, you wouldn't need to actually take it in to get tuned, right?

That is correct. The CARB setup has it's own tune so you won't need to get a custom tune. You just need to buy the complete package from them.

Originally Posted by OICU812

Bob@Drift-Office I suspect we'll see thread for Digital Assasin KW SC tune and results soon to?

Uploading as we speak. Digital Assassin just picked up his car not an hour ago.

Originally Posted by grostoine

And most of the point is if you want to keep that ''stock drivability'' and not denaturized the car, the supercharge is THE option.

Depends on the individual, but you're making generalizations that aren't always good.

Originally Posted by ecko04

The tune isn't about extracting every whp possible. Tuners target reliability and driveability. Some setups lend themselves more towards SD or a hybrid tune as opposed to MAF based. It's in the design of the system.

THANK YOU! (Really. I can't stress this enough! Refreshing too!)

Cheers!


Bob @ Drift-Office, LLC

[ATL BRZ]

Great results. This confirms the JR kit as my personal favorite. Love the simplicity of it all.

[vgi]

Originally Posted by Drift-Office

We're also running a custom Speed Density (SD) calibration, and understand that when you do this, you're not looking at some E-Tune or off the shelf map. When going to SD, each car's engine has it's own VE, and there is no one size fits all calibration, at least not for optimization purposes.

Originally Posted by Drift-Office

JR had said it was possible to tune it off the MAF, though I respectfully disagreed. Not sure how they did it but I couldn't without skewing the MAF values beyond it's intended range...

Originally Posted by ecko04

Some setups lend themselves more towards SD or a hybrid tune as opposed to MAF based. It's in the design of the system. The intake's and diameter as well as MAF placement and other variables can pose difficulties with a MAF only tune, this is where the hybrid and SD tune comes in. @Drift-Office stated if you're looking into one of these you should find a shop to dyno tune instead of eTuning.

Originally Posted by Drift-Office

That is correct. The CARB setup has it's own tune so you won't need to get a custom tune. You just need to buy the complete package from them.

@Drift-Office so according to the above, if jackson racing / kraftwerks canned tunes are SD based then (because each car's engine has it's own VE) those tunes in the best case just will not be optimized for the customer's car. if those tunes are maf based then it's also questionable how good the tune is since the MAF values possibly could be skewed beyond it's intended range.

I can see why all these posts confuse people, especially those who would want to get CARB approval.

@gmsii and @Jackson Racing maybe you guys could provide more info on your canned tunes? are those SD or MAF or hybrid setup and how well/safe they would be considering above limitations of each tuning solution running in various cars in different locations on different variation of premium fuel blends?

[ecko04]

A base tune is just that, basic. It isn't optimal and needs to be dialed in. This is for every FI system on the market.

There is no One-Size-Fits-All

[vgi]

Originally Posted by ecko04

A base tune is just that, basic. It isn't optimal and needs to be dialed in. This is for every FI system on the market.

except it's not 'dialing in' a closed EcuTek tune, it's getting a completely new tune and loosing CARB approval in the process, unless I'm wrong about that?