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Old 10-29-2013, 03:36 PM   #15
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Don't forget you can use
2008+ STI rear sways which are 19mm
Or 2010+ WRX which is 16mm
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The stock sway bars are one of the best suspension parts on this car and I will not be touching it at all. I don't see many aftermarket ones that will beat it.
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The stock sway bars are one of the best suspension parts on this car and I will not be touching it at all. I don't see many aftermarket ones that will beat it.
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The stock sway bars are one of the best suspension parts on this car and I will not be touching it at all. I don't see many aftermarket ones that will beat it.
Can you explain your point?
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Just scored a 19mm Perrin rear STI swaybar with end links for $150!
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I think it's a good idea to start a list like this to help users to make their choices easily.

Stock
Front : 18mm
Rear : 14mm

ST suspensions
Front : 19mm,
2 way adjustable. 41% & 76% stifness increase
Rear : 17.5mm
3 way adjustable. 20%, 58% and 133% increase in stiffness

Witheline
Front : 20mm, 22mm
20mm Fixed or 2 position in option, 22mm
2 position
Rear : 16mm, 18mm
3 position
http://www.whiteline.com.au/do_segue...ehicle=2012-ON

Cusco
Front : 16mm, 20mm
1 position
Rear : 14mm, 16mm
1 position

TRD Stabilizer Set
TRD Site
Jparts Site

Eibach
Front : 25mm
2 position
P1 = 88 N/mm (500 lbs/in) +255%
P2 = 103 N/mm (585 lbs/in) +314%
Rear : 19mm
2 position
P1 = 45 N/mm (255 lbs/in) +126%
P2 = 60 N/mm (338 lbs/in) +200%
http://performance-suspension.eibach...-roll-kit_2013

Hotchkis
Front : 25.4mm
2 position
500 lbs/in (170 % Stiffer than Stock)
630 lbs/in (245 % Stiffer than Stock)
Rear : 19mm
4 position
320 lbs/in (200 % Stiffer than Stock)
405 lbs/in (275 % Stiffer than Stock)
520 lbs/in (385 % Stiffer than Stock)
700 lbs/in (550 % Stiffer than Stock)
http://www.hotchkis.net/scion-frs-sp...sway-bars.html

Perrin
Front : 19mm, 22mm
2 position
19mm Hole #125% Stiffer than 18mm OEM Bar
19mm Hole #272% Stiffer than 18mm OEM Bar
22mm Hole #1130% Stiffer than 18mm OEM Bar
22mm Hole #2218% Stiffer than 18mm OEM Bar
http://perrinperformance.com/i-13324...-fr-s-brz.html
Rear : 16mm, 19mm, 22mm, 25mm
3 position
16mm Hole #130% Stiffer than 14mm OEM bar
16mm Hole #265% Stiffer than 14mm OEM bar
16mm Hole #3116% Stiffer than 14mm OEM bar
19mm Hole #1150% Stiffer than 14mm OEM bar
19mm Hole #2243% Stiffer than 14mm OEM bar
19mm Hole #3347% Stiffer than 14mm OEM bar
22mm Hole #1400% Stiffer than 14mm OEM bar
22mm Hole #2535% Stiffer than 14mm OEM bar
22mm Hole #3729% Stiffer than 14mm OEM bar
http://perrinperformance.com/i-13324...-fr-s-brz.html

Tanabe
Front : 22mm
1 position
http://www.tanabe-usa.com/rnd/?tag=/fr-s

Strano FSB
Front : 22mm
1 position
85% Stiffer than 18mm OEM bar
http://www.stranoparts.com/partdetails.php?PartID=928

SuperPro
Front : 20mm, 22mm
Rear : 18mm, 20mm
http://www.fastwrx.com/suswbafbr.html
Great list!!
Just a suggestion:

You might want to list either HOLLOW or SOLID.
The stiffness of the bar will vary greatly depending whether hollow or solid.
Without knowing that, it'll be tough to gauge stiffness with diameter alone.
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is the oem hollow or solid?
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OEM is solid
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Sway bar option list

I will try to update the list soon concerning hollow and solid informations.
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Probably all after market bar are hollow.

Anyway no difference between solid and hollow on the stiffness, I agave talked with my friend engineer.
Typically most aftermarket bars are solid, as solid is bit cheaper to make.

No difference? Please do enlighten us.

Hollow is softer per OD mm vs solid.

You can have a hollow and a solid of equal stiffness, but in such cases the hollow will typically have a larger OD and weigh a couple of pounds less.

Hollow bars are typically designed to provide a certain level of stiffness while trying to save some weight vs solid.

Calculations exists on the differences all over the internet.

If you are comparing bars based on diameter, the detail of it being solid or hollow DOES MATTER.

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Typically most aftermarket bars are solid, as solid is bit cheaper to make.

No difference? Please do enlighten us.

Hollow is softer per OD mm vs solid.

You can have a hollow and a solid of equal stiffness, but in such cases the hollow will typically have a larger OD and weigh a couple of pounds less.

Hollow bars are typically designed to provide a certain level of stiffness while trying to save some weight vs solid.

Calculations exists on the differences all over the internet.

If you are comparing bars based on diameter, the detail of it being solid or hollow DOES MATTER.
Don't be mad bro we are here to learn, I don't have any problems to say when am wrong.

Could you show to us? Then you will probably inform users correctly.

I want to understand what is the difference between an solid and an hollow bar.

I don't think it's enough big to really see the difference on the street and also maybe on a race track. I mean the difference between the 2 bar types.

I am pretty sure if you try both, hollow and rigid, you will probably not see any differences. It's only about how much the bar are more stiffness then the oem. Example, if you have the same % of stiffness between an hollow and an rigid bar then this is the same thing.

We say the same thing

I just want to say, look at the % of stiffness you want to add on your car and make your choice from this.
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