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Old 04-09-2012, 12:49 PM   #71
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The Scion Nav system sells for about $2000...$850 is a lot more cheaper (for some people) even if that means using your phone.

That's just for the xB/xD and the tC is slightly more. If they make one exclusively for the FR-S it would probably a few hundred more.
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Old 04-09-2012, 12:53 PM   #72
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I hope you are right, because i will definitely stay FR-S if that is true!
There is no way that will be true.

PnP kits will are not the same as OEM HIDs, I don't know one dealer that sells PnP aftermarket kits. Headlights have to be DoT legal; the projectors have to match the ballasts and all that.

A good retrofit will cost at least $300 before labor. http://shop.lightwerkz.net/Complete-Retrofit-Kits

And again, a true keyless entry system with push button start is about $350 before labor. http://www.advancedkeys.com/Prod_AK104B.html
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Old 04-09-2012, 01:26 PM   #73
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$850 are you kidding me. I would only consider this thing is if it was a touch screen carputer that can tether to my phone for internet. They can make computers really small these days. Even something with elementary specs as this can be paired with a SSD hard drive and a touch screen display. The combo will blow bespoke out of the water.


I would rather get BRZ/HIDs, because those are extremely difficult to retrofit.


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Could that do anything you couldn't do with a smartphone and a windshield mount? Seems like a lot of work/ghettoness to get something you could just do on your phone.
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Nope go with LED Fogs, way cheaper and better...
Doesn't mean people won't do it.
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I hope you are right, because i will definitely stay FR-S if that is true!
The FRS has halogen projectors and the brz has HID projectors. A plug and play HID kit will never be as good as a HID projector setup. The projectors are built for their application, so even with halogen projectors there will be a bad beam pattern and glare.
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Could that do anything you couldn't do with a smartphone and a windshield mount? Seems like a lot of work/ghettoness to get something you could just do on your phone.
Smartphones are cool but there is a lot more program and operating system flexibility with computers (especially PC's). This is a dual core computer, the size of a book. It has integrated in graphics card and is sold for use as a home theater pc. It will run windows 7, linux, or whatever programs are available. I think its cool.

I agree that making something like this myself would be time consuming, but I was trying to say that the technology exists for manufacturers to make a double din carputer inexpensively. IMO Bespoke is outdated/overpriced.

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Smartphones are cool but there is a lot more program and operating system flexibility with computers (especially PC's). I agree that making something like this myself would be time consuming, but I was trying to say that the technology exists for manufacturers to make a double din carputer inexpensively.
IMO Bespoke is outdated/overpriced.
Yes but you can't point and click while driving. Car computer idea is null unless you want to sit in a parking lot and boot up windows. Nothing cutting edge about that at all
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I agree that it shouldnt be used when driving, but I wouldnt call it null. If manufacturers decided to implement the tech and integrate it into their cars imagine how much better your driving experience would be... You can still use this for music, looking up restaurants, and junk, but the utility would be the programs that people will write.

If the platform is there, someone will find a way to integrate feedback from the car (OBDII, temp, oil, mpg, rpms)into usable data for the driver. With a pc the possibilities are endless. For example, imagine not having to build a guagepod because you can have a digital gauge on-screen, etc. There is alot of data to be had.

Its not a perfect concept but the boot times for a system running windows 7 and SSD are less than 20 seconds. Even less if the computer hybernates or is running linux.
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The FRS has halogen projectors and the brz has HID projectors. A plug and play HID kit will never be as good as a HID projector setup. The projectors are built for their application, so even with halogen projectors there will be a bad beam pattern and glare.
I agree, If i go FR-S I will get the OEM hids from the European Toyota 86..

Screw it, it looks like the best way to go now is get a BRZ limited, once they allow the VIP discount.
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I agree that it shouldnt be used when driving, but I wouldnt call it null. If manufacturers decided to implement the tech and integrate it into their cars imagine how much better your driving experience would be... You can still use this for music, looking up restaurants, and junk, but the utility would be the programs that people will write.

If the platform is there, someone will find a way to integrate feedback from the car (OBDII, temp, oil, mpg, rpms)into usable data for the driver. With a pc the possibilities are endless. For example, imagine not having to build a guagepod because you can have a digital gauge on-screen, etc. There is alot of data to be had.

Its not a perfect concept but the boot times for a system running windows 7 and SSD are less than 20 seconds. Even less if the computer hybernates or is running linux.
There is not good voice control and it is going to add more weight...
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Smartphones are cool but there is a lot more program and operating system flexibility with computers (especially PC's). This is a dual core computer, the size of a book. It has integrated in graphics card and is sold for use as a home theater pc. It will run windows 7, linux, or whatever programs are available. I think its cool.

I agree that making something like this myself would be time consuming, but I was trying to say that the technology exists for manufacturers to make a double din carputer inexpensively. IMO Bespoke is outdated/overpriced.
Bespoke is not outdated because nothing else out there is running the new Zypr. It is overpriced though...but that is because of Scion. They are gouging us on it.
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BRZ definitely has auto leveling HID's as pointed out,

I know this because:

It is law for Hid's because of the intensity,

Cusco offers an auto leveling correction rod with their suspension goodies
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Wait, so if I get the JDM HID, does that mean that it'll have auto leveling included, or do you have to modify even more of your car to get it to work?
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Wait, so if I get the JDM HID, does that mean that it'll have auto leveling included, or do you have to modify even more of your car to get it to work?
If you get the JDM HID you'll be blinding the oncoming drivers, as the beam pattern is opposite ours.

Not to mention there may be some additional steps to get the auto leveling to work. If it works at all.
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