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Old 04-04-2012, 10:31 PM   #15
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It doesn't look bigger than the S2k to me, I think it's just the higher hood that's deceiving to the eye. Stupid European pedestrian impact nonsense. It's a tiny bit taller but not much, I guess if it's necessary to accomodate some taller folk that's fine.
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It certainly looks like it displaces more cubic feet than the S2k. I suppose that's the price to pay to have a 2+2 with a real trunk.
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It certainly looks like it displaces more cubic feet than the S2k. I suppose that's the price to pay to have a 2+2 with a real trunk.
For the rear at least I wouldn't call it a "price to pay", the higher butt on the BRZ makes the rear window angle almost optimal for drag. I'm actually a bit surprised they didn't raise the rear window a little bit more to give some extra headroom and luggage volume, but I guess the trunk would be a bit high or something. Compromises...

The hood on the BRZ looks like it's about 2-3 inches higher probably for impact safety, so that's about right. The overall height looks to be about 2 inches higher after you consider the slight drop on the S2000, I don't see where that height is coming from but I'd hope that the BRZ fits taller people than the S2000.
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Old 04-04-2012, 10:44 PM   #18
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it looks bigger as in wider thats for damn sure

btw turbo s2k
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Old 04-05-2012, 12:41 AM   #19
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it looks bigger as in wider thats for damn sure

btw turbo s2k
It is a heck of a lot wider than the S2K, which is something that I like about the BRZ, love the feel setting in the drivers seat, extremely comfortable, I had to raise the seat up to see over the hood, I am 6' tall with long legs, had the seat slammed all the way back to be comfortable......seat back was touching rear seats..useless with me as a driver, I would just leave the rear seats down...or, take them out, tried to lower the rear seats from the front,,,,broke off a little plastic cap, tweaked my back doing so...the proper way is to open the trunk, you will see 2 straps that release the seats to the down position........

I was LMAO,
Some of the sales guy's at dealer didn't even know it was out there on the 2nd day.


Awesome day in Colorado for photo's, S2K out for a spin:
Can't imagine the parts/labor rate for making the BRZ a comparable road racer.....guess I will see soon !!

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Gorgeous S2k. If I could find a clean AP2 at a reasonable price here that isnt yellow, silver, or red, Id jump on it in a heartbeat.
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Very nice, we need some more new 86 rivals, like a new Silvia, a new S2000 coupé, and a new RX-7.
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I don't think Honda could produce something like the S2000 again; they've simply moved too far from the performance market in the 12 years since. Nissan S chassis rumors have been swirling around forever with no substance. Given their resurrection of Datsun and their money-making, record-shattering GTR, I think their interest ins't in this segment. Rumors of the Mazda and a new rotary are non-stop, but another rotary like the 13B simply won't fly. The design of the engine was poorly understood (consuming oil is built into the design, I'm told), mileage was poor and this age of CAFE standards can't afford that, and reliability simply wasn't there.

This has always been a tough segment, but I don't think we'll be seeing light AND powerful cars for some time. It just makes more sense to sell tarted up Fiesta hatchbacks and MS3s. Now, a fixed roof Miata with the MS3 engine...that'd be something.

I do wonder how well the twins would do if they were 2 seater coupes rather than 2+2. Given how (un)usable the rear seats may be, I truly think they made sacrifices to get that 2+2 designation when they could have better balanced the car without those rear parcel shelves.

According to a quick comparison of a 2001 S2000 on Edmunds and the BRZ specs page on Subaru's website:
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Measurement      S2000       BRZ
Wheelbase        94.5"       101.2"
Length           162.2"      166.7"
Width            68.9"       69.9"
Height           50.6"       50.6"
Stock they should be the same height while the BRZ is only an inch wider, but 4.5" longer. It's the lines of the BRZ that make it seem THAT much larger than the S2000 when the only really different dimensions are wheelbase and length.

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Cool comparison pics.

Like someone else alluded too, it's amazing they are very similar in size, especially because of a bit bigger trunk space and 2 extra seats. And the BRZ weighs LESS than it.

One thing I didn't really care for in the S2K is the upright windshield, it really ruined the aerodynamics of the car and it was a magnet for rocks. But it really was one of the few pet peeves that I had about the car.

Seeing the two cars side by side really confirms the size and the BRZ looks perfect. I like the fact that it's a bit bigger than the S2K, because I also (pet peeve) thought the S2K was a bit too narrow.

Thanks for sharing.
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cool... your brz looks great. wondering Where you had your rear fog lights... anybody tried buying from jcwhitney auto parts? seems they have pretty cool taillights. thanks
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