Top Quality Coilover brand? *Close Thread Please*

[iJason]

Originally Posted by InvalidJohnny5

Just get TRD springs and call it a day. I mean they were designed by factory and will give you that lowered look you're after. "215/50/17" is a tire size; Width/Profile/Wheel. Like Mike said you're gunna have to spend a bit of coin to get some decent coilovers for racing. I don't see why people concerned with ride height and appearance don't just go for bags. I mean you can clear potholes and get that sweet slammed look and get a feature in Stance magazine.

Original plan was bags but I guess the FRS just isn't a car you should bag :/ I'll look into springs I suppose. & correct my tire szes.

@gatorbushmen no idea.

@ApolloSki @CSG Mike How do I figure what spring rate I need?

& doesn't Fortune 510 offer custom spring rates & high end dampening?

[Diode Dynamics]

We have Tein coilovers on our FRS, I'd definitely recommend them. It's a quality product at a fair price. The stance looks great, the car handles better, and the ride is still pretty comfortable. It's a win-win for the $$

Nick C.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by iJason

Original plan was bags but I guess the FRS just isn't a car you should bag :/ I'll look into springs I suppose. & correct my tire szes.

@gatorbushmen no idea.

@ApolloSki @CSG Mike How do I figure what spring rate I need?

& doesn't Fortune 510 offer custom spring rates & high end dampening?

I think you need to do some more research on this forum.... spring rate research has already been done for you.

Read the stickies, see the numbers, and make your decision.

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by iJason

I want to find the hard facts on each coilover and determine:

Best coilover, unlimited budget
Best, for under around $1200
& the best one for brands under around $800

I know others have said it but it's not been made abundantly clear: the answers you want for coilovers is way beyond what you were originally asking for, and your lack of experience in this (and all the answers) is making it more difficult.

To make it simple: don't worry about what spring rates are best. Don't worry about what handles good/bad. You need to draft out your goals and simplify your solutions from this.

From what I get, your goals are:

- lower car slightly
- better ride quality
- 19" wheels

Springs + a good set of aftermarket shocks will be good for what you want to do. Or, you can do coilovers, but I think the key here is to NOT worry about the actual detailed specs, and worry about what type of service/support is provided with the purchase. Some companies have all their manufacturing located overseas, and their version of "warranty work" is to just provide you a replacement shock cartridge for you to swap out. No actual revalve/rebuild work done in the US.

As for what "plus sizing" means, use this:
http://tirefinder.toyotires.com/

Input the car, and then select +1 or +2 in the Plus Sizes for +1" diameter or +2" diameter increase. You can then see the equivalent larger tire size that's the same diameter (or very close).

Tire diameters will vary slightly between manufacturers but this is a good start to figure out what sizes are and mean.

-alex

[f0rge]

The consensus on this forum seems to be that the best coilovers in your price ranges are:
$800 - ST coilovers
$1200 - RCE Tarmac 0
$2000 - ?

This is just what I've noticed, I don't own any of these nor am I associated with either company.

[Adeets]

Originally Posted by iJason

Define high end, and price.. Given that I was originally planning air suspension, my budget isn't too small. $2000 would be the absolute most I'd spend on coilovers.
& yes, I was looking into Nitto stick tires.


@Adeets - I wouldn't be surprised if my dealer gave me shit springs lol, I regret buying the car from them. Should've gotten it 110% stock but what's done is done.
But I don't understand the 17" -> 19" and the 215/50/17. Those numbers don't mean anything to me. Again, I'm new to the actual mechanics of cars but I'm trying my hardest to learn. There's just so much haha. Also, What do you mean break my tires loose?

215/50/17 215 is width of the tire in mm, 50 is the ratio between tire sidewall height vs width, so take your width and times it by what ever the ratio is ( IE 215 x.5 = 107.5mm 215/40/17 would be 215x0.4 = 86) and the 17 is the rim diameter.

So 215/45/17 (8.46 inches wide, sidewall 3.81 inches tall, 17" wheel.)
And 255/40/17 (10.03 inches wide, sidewall 4.01 inches tall, 17" wheel.)

17to 19 changes alot to get the same diameter tire from stock 215/45/17 you'd have to go to a 215/35/19 which cuts about an inch off of your sidewall increasing Noise and vibration.

Also with the bigger rims/tires breaking loose, or loosing traction becomes more difficult since there's more mass on the wheels. Also going a bigger rim doesn't mean your gonna fill your fender gap.

I'd recommend if you enjoy how it handles from stock N/A then go with a wedsport tc105n 17x8 or 17x8.5 rim and keep the stock tires.

If your going FI, it's a whole different ball game.

IMO I'd go FI before I touch the suspension. (It's actually what I did, see my build below.)

[the.big.kahoona]

Originally Posted by f0rge

The consensus on this forum seems to be that the best coilovers in your price ranges are:
$800 - ST coilovers
$1200 - RCE Tarmac 0
$2000 - ?

This is just what I've noticed, I don't own any of these nor am I associated with either company.

No. There's consensus. For example for $800 I wouldnt buy coilovers at all

Different setups for different goals. There's no 1 size fits all solution

[Gixxersixxerman]

You know what your problem is.. Your listening to people on the Internet instead of people that have what you want.. I know of three members at least that have bags on their car and love it.. One even does trackdays.. If you want to bag your car then bag it.. Don't listen to the "purist" that think only expensive coilovers and expensive light weight wheels are the only thing that should be put on this car.. Because unless your going by that theory then your still doing it wrong.. For every hater of a certain brand you'll find a lover.. 86 speed factory rides on FA and embarrasses people on 3-4k suspension all the time..

You stated your not tracking your car, if you want a good ride and go low then bags are the way to do it.. Look up Noel and get his advice, the cat from Hawaii that's bagged, get his advice.. The haters of bags most likely never been on them.. These are not the bags from way back when, when bags on the same axle were T together and the vehical bobbed and weaved and swayed.. I think you'll find the kits made just for our car are more then enough performance for you.. If your trying to set lap records, then bags won't work.. If your wanting adjustable ride and a great quality ride.. Bags are what you want

[f0rge]

Originally Posted by the.big.kahoona

No. There's consensus. For example for $800 I wouldnt buy coilovers at all

Different setups for different goals. There's no 1 size fits all solution

Well aren't you special.

Just because you wouldn't buy a set for $800 doesn't mean there isn't a "best" option in that price range for someone like the OP who's only looking for a nice ride in his lowered car.

[Noob4Life]

Originally Posted by Gixxersixxerman

You know what your problem is.. Your listening to people on the Internet instead of people that have what you want.. I know of three members at least that have bags on their car and love it.. One even does trackdays.. If you want to bag your car then bag it.. Don't listen to the "purist" that think only expensive coilovers and expensive light weight wheels are the only thing that should be put on this car.. Because unless your going by that theory then your still doing it wrong.. For every hater of a certain brand you'll find a lover.. 86 speed factory rides on FA and embarrasses people on 3-4k suspension all the time..

You stated your not tracking your car, if you want a good ride and go low then bags are the way to do it.. Look up Noel and get his advice, the cat from Hawaii that's bagged, get his advice.. The haters of bags most likely never been on them.. These are not the bags from way back when, when bags on the same axle were T together and the vehical bobbed and weaved and swayed.. I think you'll find the kits made just for our car are more then enough performance for you.. If your trying to set lap records, then bags won't work.. If your wanting adjustable ride and a great quality ride.. Bags are what you want

IMO this is the best post in this thread. If you were into tracking, springs rates would matter. Bags are the way to go for a low DD and will work damn well with 19s. It's pretty much the perfect answer for what you want which is great ride quality which will get you low but is easily raised so that you don't scrape and as long as you go with a reputable company you'll get good quality bags.

[Enraged21]

anybody have experience with these coilovers?

http://www.titanmotorsports.com/tyvecoforfr.html

[iJason]

Originally Posted by Gixxersixxerman

You know what your problem is.. Your listening to people on the Internet instead of people that have what you want.. I know of three members at least that have bags on their car and love it.. One even does trackdays.. If you want to bag your car then bag it.. Don't listen to the "purist" that think only expensive coilovers and expensive light weight wheels are the only thing that should be put on this car.. Because unless your going by that theory then your still doing it wrong.. For every hater of a certain brand you'll find a lover.. 86 speed factory rides on FA and embarrasses people on 3-4k suspension all the time..

You stated your not tracking your car, if you want a good ride and go low then bags are the way to do it.. Look up Noel and get his advice, the cat from Hawaii that's bagged, get his advice.. The haters of bags most likely never been on them.. These are not the bags from way back when, when bags on the same axle were T together and the vehical bobbed and weaved and swayed.. I think you'll find the kits made just for our car are more then enough performance for you.. If your trying to set lap records, then bags won't work.. If your wanting adjustable ride and a great quality ride.. Bags are what you want

I wish I could thank you all for your help but I don't have that ability yet, being a newer member lol..
Anywho; I guess bags does seem like my best option. You're right about the love hate thing. I was just caught up in all the hate and it drove me away from wanting bags :/
Now, backing up to the research I did on bags earlier... the only question left is.. Follow Noel and do Airrex.. Or follow Rotiform and go Air Lift Performance...

[mike the snake]

I have the $850 ST coilovers (same as KW V1) and love them. Spring rates are not too stiff, and they lower the car to 2" lower or more. They feel like they are valved correctly for the spring rates, and the ride is great.

I had Ohlins R&T coilovers on my last car with stiff spring rates, and while they were very nice, I never used the adjustments, and hated the ride.

The Ohlins might be a good choice if you want to spend more for a better coilover.

The KW V3 offers adjustability, and I think the same softer spring rates as the ST's for I think $2200.

[the.big.kahoona]

Originally Posted by f0rge

Well aren't you special.

Just because you wouldn't buy a set for $800 doesn't mean there isn't a "best" option in that price range for someone like the OP who's only looking for a nice ride in his lowered car.

And now you're just proving my point. I wouldn't, maybe OP would. There is no consensus, because there are different goals and different driving styles