BRZ STi tS Confirmed. Teased on Official Website

[Unobtanium]

Originally Posted by Guillaume

One does not simply tweak its engine and call it a day. OEMs have to fulfill tons of requirements and get (very pricey) domestic approvals on every market on top of their own (internal) long validation process.

Cool story, maybe that's how they do things over in Japan, but in America, we have forward thinking companies like Ford that produce cars like the BOSS mustang with a @10% bhp bump and different tuning without a problem.

[Allch Chcar]

That's basically all the stuff I could want, condensed into one kit. Then I could keep it "stock" and avoid the mod bug. Now, STI stuff is pretty expensive. But I imagine it's not going to cost anywhere near $10k to piece everything together and ship it here.

If it were closer to $5k for everything...I might.

[NemesisPrime909]

Originally Posted by Unobtanium

Cool story, maybe that's how they do things over in Japan, but in America, we have forward thinking companies like Ford that produce cars like the BOSS mustang with a @10% bhp bump and different tuning without a problem.

I wouldn't say Subaru isn't forward thinking I'd say they're just going at a slower pace than Ford.

[NemesisPrime909]

Originally Posted by Allch Chcar

That's basically all the stuff I could want, condensed into one kit. Then I could keep it "stock" and avoid the mod bug. Now, STI stuff is pretty expensive. But I imagine it's not going to cost anywhere near $10k to piece everything together and ship it here.

If it were closer to $5k for everything...I might.

i think would be cheaper to but said parts.

If it were me I'd just be buying the seats, wheels, fender 'vents', aero, brakes, springs, sti engine parts.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by Unobtanium

Cool story, maybe that's how they do things over in Japan, but in America, we have forward thinking companies like Ford that produce cars like the BOSS mustang with a @10% bhp bump and different tuning without a problem.

Was that done also within 18 months of the release of that motor? Or that generation of Mustang?

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Allch Chcar

That's basically all the stuff I could want, condensed into one kit. Then I could keep it "stock" and avoid the mod bug. Now, STI stuff is pretty expensive. But I imagine it's not going to cost anywhere near $10k to piece everything together and ship it here.

If it were closer to $5k for everything...I might.

That's what I said with my CR.... didn't work.

[Pete156]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

100hp/liter NA was so two decades (25 years) ago...

Which cars had 100hp/liter NA 25 years ago? (1988)

[Beyer Subaru]

Originally Posted by Pete156

Which cars had 100hp/liter NA 25 years ago? (1988)

Honda - B-Series. 1.6L=160hp.

[jcX4ever]

Originally Posted by Pete156

Which cars had 100hp/liter NA 25 years ago? (1988)

Honda B16A 1.6L at over 160hp

Toyota 4AGE(20v) 1.6L at over 160hp
It think in INITIAL D he was using the Atlantic formula edition.. 240hp out from 1.6L and that's 150hp per liter at 11.5k rpm

Honda B18C? 1.8L at over 180hp

Toyota 3SGE 2.0L at over 200hp

Nissan SR16VE 1.6L at over 170hp

Nissan SR20VE 2.0L at over 200hp

then.. later the Honda F series.. The Toyota 2zz.. etc.. These are just Japanese engines listed.. Try searching European engines.

I'm guessing you're very young.

[WolfpackS2k]

ding ding ding

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Pete156

Which cars had 100hp/liter NA 25 years ago? (1988)

B16A

B16B is 185hp... B18C is 20hp... but B16A was introduced in 1988 as a 1989 model.

The other engines @jcX4ever listed are newer, but still all over 15 years old, and most of them pretty rare, except for the F2xC

[chanomatik]

So if the FA20 is nothing special why are people excited about it? Mostly because Boxer and DI? It's won awards already and gained recognition, so I guess I'm confused as to why you guys aren't celebrating the return of 100HP/L that's been dead for nearly 20 years? Are we saying we just don't care for that anymore or what? These are legit questions. I'm trying to figure out where you guys are coming from. I'm 29 and only been into Subaru vehicles since about 2007. I are slow and learning everything backwards-ish. haha

[WolfpackS2k]

Also don't forget that all those Honda high revving engines have fully forged internals.

FA20 sure doesn't

[jcX4ever]

Originally Posted by chanomatik

So if the FA20 is nothing special why are people excited about it? Mostly because Boxer and DI? It's won awards already and gained recognition, so I guess I'm confused as to why you guys aren't celebrating the return of 100HP/L that's been dead for nearly 20 years? Are we saying we just don't care for that anymore or what? These are legit questions. I'm trying to figure out where you guys are coming from. I'm 29 and only been into Subaru vehicles since about 2007. I are slow and learning everything backwards-ish. haha

Look at the car not just the engine..

The twins are good considering they are light, low COG, affordable, big trunk space for 4 wheels, additional +2 seats, rwd, arguably good looking, handles better than most car... etc.. name them.

Again, it is a package deal here not just the engine that we are looking at because the engine is not a good engine if you put that in a bus, a heavy truck etc..