EPA Fuel ratings posted on fueleconomy.org - Page 3 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

powertrip · 03-21-2012, 09:29 AM

If you drive it appropriately you can surely eek out better MPG in the manual than what is stated. The EPA tests follow a very precise scripted scenario to get their numbers, so it's not always 100% accurate to what you can get in the real world.

Dave-ROR · 03-21-2012, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Saibot

but.. i want manual

It'll take you awhile to offset the cost of the auto. If you want the manual buy the manual. Even 30mpg for a sports car is quite good.

You could replace the final drive with the 3.7 that some jdm modes have. Personally I'll be looking for a 4.5-5 fd for my car but high revs on the highway ont bother me.

Matador · 03-21-2012, 10:12 AM

FYI, Autos have been getting better FE numbers for a loooooooooong while now.

SUB-FT86 · 03-21-2012, 11:17 AM

That's true. Ever since the early 2000's automatics have risen over manuals at FE and I think its because of the 6-8 spd auto's coming out with better gearing vs the old 5 spd and 4 spd auto's. My 2002 RSX auto is hwy rated at 34 mpg while the Type S was rated at 29-30. Deja Vu'

bambbrose · 03-21-2012, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

It'll take you awhile to offset the cost of the auto. If you want the manual buy the manual. Even 30mpg for a sports car is quite good.

You could replace the final drive with the 3.7 that some jdm modes have. Personally I'll be looking for a 4.5-5 fd for my car but high revs on the highway ont bother me.

That's because you are used to the 4.7 in your ITR

. Bouncing in and out of VTEC on the highway is normal...

Dadhawk · 03-21-2012, 12:15 PM

Both are now on the website

SUB-FT86 · 03-21-2012, 12:21 PM

28 combined for the auto is crazy!!!

Dadhawk · 03-21-2012, 12:23 PM

(typo in the thread heading, that should be fueleconomy.gov)

They are up. Same between models. Link and screen shot below:

FR-S
BRZ

Future · 03-21-2012, 12:26 PM

still better then every cars I ever had.

Jayde · 03-21-2012, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Future

still better then every cars I ever had.

Dadhawk · 03-21-2012, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SUB-FT86

28 combined for the auto is crazy!!!

If both prove to be accurate, it would take you 3 years to recover the cost of the auto. Actually not a bad return if you keep cars forever like I do.

Spaceywilly · 03-21-2012, 12:34 PM

It says I will save $800/year compared to my WRX

Dadhawk · 03-21-2012, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Future

still better then every cars I ever had.

My Gen1 MR2 did very close to this, but gas was so relatively cheap then I didn't track it except on trips. Even so, I'm VERY happy with these numbers.

bambbrose · 03-21-2012, 12:40 PM

So according to my math.

If the auto costs $1200 more, as per the reports we are seeing, and the combined ratings are 25/28 respectively for man/auto.

You will have to drive the auto 69,767 miles before it pays for itself in gas savings relative to the manual....

hmm so if you are buying the auto "for the gas savings", you may want to think over that decision a bit more.

Math using gas at $4.00 a gallon.

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bambbrose Wiring Nerd Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: 1994 Supra Location: Wake County NC Posts: 455 Thanks: 17 Thanked 19 Times in 12 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So according to my math. If the auto costs $1200 more, as per the reports we are seeing, and the combined ratings are 25/28 respectively for man/auto. You will have to drive the auto 69,767 miles before it pays for itself in gas savings relative to the manual.... hmm so if you are buying the auto "for the gas savings", you may want to think over that decision a bit more. Math using gas at $4.00 a gallon. Last edited by bambbrose; 03-21-2012 at 01:04 PM.

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powertrip Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: Mercedes C320, S2000 Location: North Florida Posts: 155 Thanks: 3 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	If you drive it appropriately you can surely eek out better MPG in the manual than what is stated. The EPA tests follow a very precise scripted scenario to get their numbers, so it's not always 100% accurate to what you can get in the real world.

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SUB-FT86 86 Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Drives: 2013 Toyota 86 2.0T (Asphalt) Location: Atlanta, Ga Posts: 3,129 Thanks: 126 Thanked 527 Times in 296 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	That's true. Ever since the early 2000's automatics have risen over manuals at FE and I think its because of the 6-8 spd auto's coming out with better gearing vs the old 5 spd and 4 spd auto's. My 2002 RSX auto is hwy rated at 34 mpg while the Type S was rated at 29-30. Deja Vu'

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