Automatic?

[Suberman]

Modern street turbos do not bypass boost to atmosphere. Modern mechanical superchargers use similar software to turbos. Excess boost pressure is bled off and bypassed back to the supercharger or turbo compressor inlet.

The main difference between turbo and mechanical supercharging now is low rpm torque. Turbos still deliver more hp at high rpm. However, the old supercharger Achilles heel of no torque low down is solved in the same way as for turbos: over boost is created and bled off to a bypass circuit. Works great.

[Suberman]

Originally Posted by dem00n

If i'm correct, the Auto is rated up to 400HP, can it handle 400HP for a long time? Well, only time will tell.

The automatic is basically the same auto from the Lexus IS-F, minus the two gears.

The relevant rating will be maximum torque. Horsepower isn't really relevant. Considering the auto tranny is derived from the 8 spd fitted to the Lexus IS F with its V8 I doubt this tiny engine could overpower the auto even if the boost pressure blew the heads off.

[Burrcold]

Why is the automatic "lame"? It's actually very good.

[nonicname]

here try this:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39719
Less than 2 psi and same power as vortech.

[dem00n]

Originally Posted by Suberman

The relevant rating will be maximum torque. Horsepower isn't really relevant. Considering the auto tranny is derived from the 8 spd fitted to the Lexus IS F with its V8 I doubt this tiny engine could overpower the auto even if the boost pressure blew the heads off.

Will wait and see.

[dem00n]

Originally Posted by Burrcold

Why is the automatic "lame"? It's actually very good.

Because you can't burn the clutch.

Or ride it.

[brianhj]

Originally Posted by Burrcold

Why is the automatic "lame"? It's actually very good.

I don't know.. everyone always says a sports car should always be manual. Whatever floats your boat. I like auto too just because I'm lazy.

[brianhj]

Originally Posted by nonicname

here try this:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39719
Less than 2 psi and same power as vortech.

Interesting!!

[Symmetrical]

IMO you shouldn't look to buy an FRS/BRZ for power. That's the last thing you should expect from it. If you want a fun to drive, good gas mileage, good looking daily driver, then get it. If power is a deciding factor for you, then there are plenty of other "different fun" to drive cars with more power, IE: Mustang GT, Camaro SS, 370Z, Hyundai Genesis etc.

[Anthony]

Better be careful not to get bitten by the mod bug. It can start out all innocent like, "oh, I just want XX more horsepower... like it should've had from the factory." So you add XX power. Then you do up your suspension to match. Then you buy some high performance tires. Well shit, now you want more power. You add a whole bunch more, then realize you want to do a tranny swap. And it just goes on and on...

Nothing wrong with that, but if you can accurately predict whether or not that's going to happen, you can make some good foundation decisions now to save yourself headache and money down the road. I've known several people who have gone through that exact scenario, and I myself have been down a similar road.

I bought a Tiburon when I was about 22 and didn't know a turbo from a cup holder. I couldn't drive a manual, but I bought one anyway because my best friend who I trust very much, told me to trust him in that I'd be happier with a manual... and also I'd be a poooosay if I got an automatic haha. I'm not one to give into peer pressure, but I've learned he doesn't give me advice if he doesn't truly think it will help me, so I went with the manual.

Didn't know anything about modding, wasn't trying to go fast, disliked loud cars, so on and so fourth. Now I'm trying to get either an FR-S or an Exige as a second car, that way I can finally leave the Tiburon alone. It's still my daily driver and still a reliable car. But if I don't get a second car soon, the A/C is going to come out of the Tiburon (for performance purposes) and I live in South Mississippi, so that's a terrible idea.

I'm absolutely not trying to recommend a manual over an auto, or heavily modding your car versus leaving it relatively stock. It's just that, from what I've read so far, you remind me of myself 6 years ago. I didn't know about getting bitten by the mod bug, so that is what trying to bring to your attention here: BE AWARE THERE IS A MOD BUG OUT THERE, and no amount of hand sanitizer or condoms will save you if you're the predisposed type and buy an FR-S/BRZ.

[brianhj]

Originally Posted by Anthony

Better be careful not to get bitten by the mod bug. It can start out all innocent like, "oh, I just want XX more horsepower... like it should've had from the factory." So you add XX power. Then you do up your suspension to match. Then you buy some high performance tires. Well shit, now you want more power. You add a whole bunch more, then realize you want to do a tranny swap. And it just goes on and on...

Nothing wrong with that, but if you can accurately predict whether or not that's going to happen, you can make some good foundation decisions now to save yourself headache and money down the road. I've known several people who have gone through that exact scenario, and I myself have been down a similar road.

I bought a Tiburon when I was about 22 and didn't know a turbo from a cup holder. I couldn't drive a manual, but I bought one anyway because my best friend who I trust very much, told me to trust him in that I'd be happier with a manual... and also I'd be a poooosay if I got an automatic haha. I'm not one to give into peer pressure, but I've learned he doesn't give me advice if he doesn't truly think it will help me, so I went with the manual.

Didn't know anything about modding, wasn't trying to go fast, disliked loud cars, so on and so fourth. Now I'm trying to get either an FR-S or an Exige as a second car, that way I can finally leave the Tiburon alone. It's still my daily driver and still a reliable car. But if I don't get a second car soon, the A/C is going to come out of the Tiburon (for performance purposes) and I live in South Mississippi, so that's a terrible idea.

I'm absolutely not trying to recommend a manual over an auto, or heavily modding your car versus leaving it relatively stock. It's just that, from what I've read so far, you remind me of myself 6 years ago. I didn't know about getting bitten by the mod bug, so that is what trying to bring to your attention here: BE AWARE THERE IS A MOD BUG OUT THERE, and no amount of hand sanitizer or condoms will save you if you're the predisposed type and buy an FR-S/BRZ.

Dude awesome post!!! Thanks for the story and the warning. I know somewhat how it feels.. I was bitten by they car audio bug.. went crazy tuning and adjusting and swapping things out. Also went broke. Haha.

[brianhj]

Originally Posted by Symmetrical

IMO you shouldn't look to buy an FRS/BRZ for power. That's the last thing you should expect from it. If you want a fun to drive, good gas mileage, good looking daily driver, then get it. If power is a deciding factor for you, then there are plenty of other "different fun" to drive cars with more power, IE: Mustang GT, Camaro SS, 370Z, Hyundai Genesis etc.

That's my conundrum in a nutshell! My mind is being torn in two by it! I'm losing sleep over it!

I love the looks, the feel, the style, the fun factor, the size, the sound... EVERYTHING about the FR-S! I drove an automatic. The only thing I TRULY love about the Z is the power and that's also the ONE things I truly don't like about the FR-S to the point that it almost weighs as much as the pros. Stupid huh?? That's why I'm TRYING to convince myself I will be truly happy down the road when I have my FR-S and I supercharge it. I'll be thanking you guys.. right???

[Anthony]

Well good, perfect comparison. You could drop $200,000 into an FR-S and still make it faster somehow. It's a never ending process with cars.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by brianhj

That's my conundrum in a nutshell! My mind is being torn in two by it! I'm losing sleep over it!

I love the looks, the feel, the style, the fun factor, the size, the sound... EVERYTHING about the FR-S! I drove an automatic. The only thing I TRULY love about the Z is the power. That's why I'm TRYING to convince myself I will be truly happy down the road when I have my FR-S and I supercharge it. I'll be thanking you guys.. right???

That sounds like reasonable logic to me.