Innovate (Sprintex) Supercharger Owners Topic

[xwd]

I would wait right now until they announce the 210+ upgrade/kit here in the US.

[Calum]

Originally Posted by DeliciousTuning

It is a real toss up and highly dependent on what you are looking for as the end customers. Here is the difference from my perspective and why I chose an Innovate on my personal development car. Though our second development car has a Kraftwerks kit, which is a LOT different.

The twin screws offer tons of immediate torque as low as 1500 RPM's and torque across the board. It is a wonderful feeling to be able to cruise in 6th gear at 1500 or so and floor it and be pushed back in your seat.

The centrifugals are similar down low, but not enough in my mind. I wanted something with a flat torque curve and they just do not offer this. But the benefit is efficiency and top end power, especially on the Kraftwerks kit. There is definite top end improvement, but you sacrifice a little low end torque.

Being I am not one for the top end and wanted a wider power band I opted for the Innovate. Though the Kraftwerks kits on our second development car hauls butt on the top end, which makes me a little jealous also, but I do not want a "good drivers award".

Cheers,
William Knose

Can you please post a graph of both kits overlaid? There's a ton of us that are on the fence as we don't have a complete picture of what to expect from the two styles of kit. Having the same tuner, same mods, and same dyno would answer a ton of our questions.

[DeliciousTuning]

Originally Posted by Calum

Can you please post a graph of both kits overlaid? There's a ton of us that are on the fence as we don't have a complete picture of what to expect from the two styles of kit. Having the same tuner, same mods, and same dyno would answer a ton of our questions.

I will work on that for the weekend.

Cheers,
William Knose

[CK_Bladesmith]

When is the new tune coming?

[Ralph Spoilsport]

Originally Posted by CK_Bladesmith

When is the new tune coming?

Wrong question. I suggest asking instead when Bill can talk about which Sprintex supercharger he has and when you can buy one (with the revised tune, of course).

Just some idle speculation....

[CK_Bladesmith]

Originally Posted by Ralph Spoilsport

Wrong question. I suggest asking instead when Bill can talk about which Sprintex supercharger he has and when you can buy one (with the revised tune, of course).

Just some idle speculation....

Actually I'm asking for an estimate of when the current revision he is almost done with will be sent out. It's already being beta tested as someone stated earlier in the thread a page or two back

[Ralph Spoilsport]

Originally Posted by CK_Bladesmith

Actually I'm asking for an estimate of when the current revision he is almost done with will be sent out. It's already being beta tested as someone stated earlier in the thread a page or two back

Just stirrin' the pot a little .

[OICU812]

Originally Posted by dwx

I would wait right now until they announce the 210+ upgrade/kit here in the US.

But honestly when will that happen or will it in fact happen? Aside from people's thoughts and excitement and all I haven't seen anything official, or did I miss something in my forum whore ways here??

[NickFRS]

Originally Posted by xxscaxx

They are stock plugs gapped down slightly by Prime Motoring. Theres no colder plug available yet.

Yes obviously its running a bit rich, but I wasn't even able to get through a pull on the dyno without them fouling out so haha.

AFRs were within normal range when doing etuning. But I went in for a flex fuel map so everything had to be readjusted for that. I've been on a few different tunes from different tuners as well so I am not relating this to any specific person/tune.

Once I go back saturday I will post up dyno sheets/AFRs. But just checking my p3 gauge im in the 11's IIRC. Can't really get on the car... so

false there are two step colder hks plugs. i have them in my car

Originally Posted by evan

Same here. Hate that I did that. Lesson learned. I will be replacing mine soon. Just curious to see what condition they're in.

Eat your vegetables..

PRE can get them

[xxscaxx]

Originally Posted by NickFRS

false there are two step colder hks plugs. i have them in my car

Sorry, meant NGK or Denso, not aftermarket brand name.

I saw the HKS but apparently haven't been used at the shop I went to so they don't have any experience with them or something lol

[NickFRS]

Originally Posted by xxscaxx

Sorry, meant NGK or Denso, not aftermarket brand name.

I saw the HKS but apparently haven't been used at the shop I went to so they don't have any experience with them or something lol

same plugs they use in gtr's with 25lbs of boost. dont even need to gap them.

[xxscaxx]

Originally Posted by NickFRS

same plugs they use in gtr's with 25lbs of boost. dont even need to gap them.

I saw them and wanted to use them, but just decided to go off the recommendation of the tuner/shop. Didn't want to hear "it's because the plugs.." Again

Why did you upgrade? Haven't seen any mention really about spark plugs other than when I brought it up. Did yours foul out too?

[NickFRS]

Originally Posted by xxscaxx

I saw them and wanted to use them, but just decided to go off the recommendation of the tuner/shop. Didn't want to hear "it's because the plugs.." Again

Why did you upgrade? Haven't seen any mention really about spark plugs other than when I brought it up. Did yours foul out too?

Nope. I was having misfires.... It was Precaution. But it turned out to a Header I had sanded down that the shop never checked.... I found the leak and took the car back.... So I guess I have colder plugs now? lol. I love that though. "it's because this thing we didn't sell you or recommended." Classic shops.

[xxscaxx]

Originally Posted by NickFRS

Nope. I was having misfires.... It was Precaution. But it turned out to a Header I had sanded down that the shop never checked.... I found the leak and took the car back.... So I guess I have colder plugs now? lol.

Funny you say that. I don't have a leak on my header but I had pulled my front pipe off since I was changing the engine/tranny mount and discovered a huge crack in the cat. But my car was misfiring too (on the dyno, no codes though)

Lesson to everyone - don't buy a cheap tsudo front pipe. First time it came off Bc the weld on the bracket support broke. Now the cat cracked. Not going back on. I'm just keeping the stock overpipe and front pipe on.