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View Poll Results: What F/E numbers are you seeing and why you think that it is what it is
Under 20mpg: I've yet to use a gear past 4th 3 1.96%
20~25: City driving / heavy foot 37 24.18%
25~30: I don't understand: I don't tach it out past 4k?! 66 43.14%
30~35: I enjoy the occasional fun, but usually I'm taking it easy 44 28.76%
35~40: Rule of 10's - 10 under the speed limit or 10' off the rear of a semi 3 1.96%
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Old 06-13-2013, 02:06 PM   #15
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Poll comment doesnt work for my mpg of 29 avg.. Mostly city/country roads and some hwy.. But pushing way past 4k rpms when conditions allow..
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Old 06-13-2013, 02:07 PM   #16
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I didn't vote in the poll because my numbers don't match the descriptions you provided

Worst tank I've gotten is 27 mpg around town. Best on the highway I've gotten is 35 mpg. On Fuelly I'm averaging around 29.5 mpg. Manual transmission. I only use 93 octane fuel from BP, Exxon or Shell. I've noticed that using the AC lowers by efficiency by around 2 mpg.

And I thrash my car. Redline (or close to it) every day. 6000-6500 rpm is hit with a frequency to high to measure on a daily basis.
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Old 06-13-2013, 02:09 PM   #17
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I've been getting around 31-32, MT, mostly highway, basically no stop and go. I always fill up with 93. No complaints here.
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Old 06-13-2013, 02:13 PM   #18
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And I am not sure about the Subaru/Toyota average MPG display in the car, but I have found these to be inaccurate in about every car I have driven (sometimes as much as 2-3mpg and in many cases it varied on the car (same make/model, different vehicle). Some people were off by 1mpg and others off by as much as 3mpg). So that could also be a factor as well if people are using it to report their numbers.
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And I am not sure about the Subaru/Toyota average MPG display in the car, but I have found these to be inaccurate in about every car I have driven (sometimes as much as 2-3mpg and in many cases it varied on the car (same make/model, different vehicle). Some people were off by 1mpg and others off by as much as 3mpg). So that could also be a factor as well if people are using it to report their numbers.
Hmm, this is a very good question. I use the in-car MPG... habit from my hybrid (not Toyota).
I've got a road trip tonight: excellent time to confirm highway F/E.
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Only problem with the in-car MPG is it counts for idle time in traffic and at lights. Mine has been off about 1-1.5 MPG when I do the numbers on a fuel up in Fuelly and I'm pretty sure it is all due to the idle time.
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And I am not sure about the Subaru/Toyota average MPG display in the car, but I have found these to be inaccurate in about every car I have driven (sometimes as much as 2-3mpg and in many cases it varied on the car (same make/model, different vehicle). Some people were off by 1mpg and others off by as much as 3mpg). So that could also be a factor as well if people are using it to report their numbers.
This instrument (at least in my car) is optimistic by 2-3 mpg. It doesn't account for time when you're in traffic idling. Thus (in my experience) it is more accurate if the driving is all highway and less accurate if it's all city.
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Old 06-13-2013, 02:49 PM   #22
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I do live in LA and my commute to and from work is only 4 miles through traffic.
If I was driving in LA traffic I would be happy with 22 mpg in this car.

I've never seen so many people mash the gas and stomp the brake just to close a car length, if you're used to it it seems normal but man is it weird to an outsider, the desperation for 10 feet just emanates off of every prius and suburban.

Combustion engines are most efficient at constant speed and constant load, stop and go is death to fuel economy which is why hybrids exist.
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If I was driving in LA traffic I would be happy with 22 mpg in this car.

I've never seen so many people mash the gas and stomp the brake just to close a car length, if you're used to it it seems normal but man is it weird to an outsider, the desperation for 10 feet just emanates off of every prius and suburban.

Combustion engines are most efficient at constant speed and constant load, stop and go is death to fuel economy which is why hybrids exist.
What you're describing sounds more like the mentality of a New Yorker. I don't speed up just to block others from merging into my lane nor do accelerate knowing there's a red light ahead that I will need to be braking at. There are just a lot of cars in LA and we do have stop-n-go traffic, especially during rush hours.

<off topic rant>I'm just pissed off when people don't understand about basic flow of traffic. On the freeway if you're in the fast lane, you have an obligation to essentially be the fastest car in the area. If you're not, you should let the guy behind you pass you on the left (regardless of how fast you think you're going). I feel like with traffic on the surface streets most everyone basically knows what they're doing and are just trying to get to their location as fast as they can (there are just too many cars on the road).</off topic rant>
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Old 06-13-2013, 09:11 PM   #24
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Mine doesn't show in mpg. LOL it is shown in metric. I am averaging 9.5 liters per 100km. But the car is not broken in yet so the mileage may be higher than normal.
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18.6 shows up on my dash for some reason. going to use an app to see if it matches up.
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Old 06-14-2013, 12:12 AM   #26
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yeaah my vortech and visconti tune along with the beautiful sound of the ark test pipe and catback is just making me boost . plus i love the sound of my bypass haha. people trip when they see a frs take off and hear "pshhh"
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31.. i do 5/6 k shift sometimes thats what i love about this car you can drive it 80/100% and still get great gas mpg
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