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Old 06-11-2013, 09:19 AM   #29
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Old 06-11-2013, 09:23 AM   #30
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The last Toyota sports car (MR-S) is holding its resale really well, if you want a collectable Toyota I would buy one of those over the Toyobaru. I think in one year there have been more FR-S/BRZ's sold in the USA than the entire 6 year history of the MR-S (MR-2 Spyder).

The twins look to be a high volume car, I wouldn't be surprised if we start seeing 240sx type volumes (100k+ per year) if the economy keeps getting better, there is really nothing in thier way. So I doubt the twins will be collectable unless something drastic happens to halt their sales, something like another recession or not meeting OBD III.

If they quit selling them in 2015 then yes they will be collectable, but I'd rather they be a decade long hit, sell like mad with a strong aftermarket. High volume = low parts and service cost. Collectable cars are by definition rare and expensive to keep on the road long term, except rare gems like the MR2 that shares many parts with many high volume cars like the Celica. The Twins share parts with practically nothing.
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Old 06-11-2013, 09:25 AM   #31
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After modding many cars over the years.. There is much to be said for leaving it stock. As I will do with this one..
yeah, but that red TRD start/stop button looks sooooo good....

and those standard fr-s tailpipes look sooooo bad.....
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Old 06-11-2013, 09:34 AM   #32
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Pretty much why I decided to leave mine stock, rather than turn it into some ugly-ass "ricer".
I think many of our cars here are already approaching that level unfortunately.

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yeah, but that red TRD start/stop button looks sooooo good....

and those standard fr-s tailpipes look sooooo bad.....
As long as they replace the whole catback/exhaust, and not just stick on an exhaust tip so it 'looks' like an upgrade... right? right?
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Old 06-11-2013, 10:02 AM   #33
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I don't want the twins to be collectible cars. They are meant to be driven and enjoyed by enthusiasts like me. I hope they sell even more next year, if only the manufacturing can keep up with the demand. I want toyobaru to succeed in making a popular sports car so they will continue to make them and get their competition to come up with something even better. If sales numbers were weak like the mr-s, then toyobaru would probably stop selling them in a few years.
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Old 06-11-2013, 11:16 AM   #34
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I'd rather not have it be super collectible, it'd be convenient to have parts readily available and a large knowledge base on working on them. It'd certainly be nice to be able to fit some parts from later models onto our older models.

I do hope that the cars continue to develop a good reputation. It'd be cool, in 30 years, to say "Yeah, I had a 2013 GT86/FRS/BRZ, bought it right when it came out" and have people think "Wow, that's cool", the same way we'd react to an oldtimer telling us that he bought a 1967 Mustang when it came out. That was a cool car then, and it's still a cool car today. Maybe he didn't get the Shelby GT500, maybe his wasn't the biggest motor, maybe it's not something prized by collectors, but it was still an iconic sports car, and it's pretty damn cool that he used to have one. I'm not hoping that some idiot collector will knock on my door and try to buy my car for $30k in 2030, but I'd hope that if I mentioned I bought one of the twins when they were new, people would think it was cool and ask me about it, and not be like "What the hell is a BRZ?"

I also hope that the BRZ ages something akin to the 240SX, where, at least based on what I've seen, so many get ruined by idiot owners trying to re-enact Tokyo drift, or tastelessly modded, or poorly maintained, that a near-stock specimen with only tasteful, OEM-like mods (stuff like adding JDM parts, TRD or STI parts, etc.) kept in very good cosmetic and mechanical condition will be quite desirable, and thus will maintain a relatively high resale value.
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