Direct Injector Failure Poll - Page 35 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

SmsAlSuwaidi · 02-27-2014, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bjun

So is anyone using aftermarket DIs?

They don't exist yet

Sent from my IBrick

regal · 02-28-2014, 11:01 AM

So are they offering the new flash for 2012 built cars at the dealer yet?

ayau · 02-28-2014, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by regal

So are they offering the new flash for 2012 built cars at the dealer yet?

Nope. Not that I'm aware of. 2012 is forever doomed, lol.

mwjcyber · 02-28-2014, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by FRSure

Just a question, does this problem only affect manual transmission cars?

What does the engines fuel direct injection have to do with the transmission?
Answer...nothing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tailspin

Is this DI issue only affecting earlier 2013 cars or is this unresolved and continues to affect 2014 cars as well?

Mid 2013 an updated ROM was used that supposedly fixed the high-rev-shift detonation issue that leads to DI seal failure. Did it truly fix it? With what VIN did this start? I don't know.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashtray

What's the warranty on the DI issue? Is it 5yrs/60,000 mile, or 3yr/36,000 mile?

I'm coming up on 2 years of ownership this June but only have 5,500 miles on my car. Dealer did a reflash last summer but I'm not sure for what. I haven't experienced anything people have mentioned in this thread but sometimes get a very brief idle dip. I normally shift by 5000 rpm but have taken it past 6000 from time to time. Never tracked, tuned, or modded in any way.

The DI issue would be covered under your 5yrs/60,000 mile power-train warranty, so long as you haven't given them an excuse to deny it, such as a FI (turbo/supercharger).

regal · 02-28-2014, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ayau

Nope. Not that I'm aware of. 2012 is forever doomed, lol.

Nah just got to shell out $500 for the OFT, unless som eone has romraider working by now.

kiichiro · 02-28-2014, 11:17 PM

Three words for di seal life

Cool down lap

kiichiro · 02-28-2014, 11:34 PM

Three words for di seal life

Cool down lap

CSG Mike · 02-28-2014, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mwjcyber

What does the engines fuel direct injection have to do with the transmission?
Answer...nothing.

Mid 2013 an updated ROM was used that supposedly fixed the high-rev-shift detonation issue that leads to DI seal failure. Did it truly fix it? With what VIN did this start? I don't know.

The DI issue would be covered under your 5yrs/60,000 mile power-train warranty, so long as you haven't given them an excuse to deny it, such as a FI (turbo/supercharger).

I suggest you study more on this platform...

CSG Mike · 02-28-2014, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiichiro

Three words for di seal life

Cool down lap

What does a cool down lap have to do with transient knock?

smbstyle · 02-28-2014, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

What does a cool down lap have to do with transient knock?

Mike any sign of DI issues with the new CSG project car w/ the JR kit?

CSG Mike · 02-28-2014, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by smbstyle

Mike any sign of DI issues with the new CSG project car w/ the JR kit?

None yet, but the tune with the Jackson Racing factory tuned kit is HEAVILY deviated from the factory tune... a lot of world renowned tuners (that I unfortunately cannot name) contributed to it.

The DI seal failure happens with no warning, but we have enough miles on the 2014 that we should have seen the failure by now if it were going to happen. We didn't average many miles between DI seal failures on the 2013.

smbstyle · 03-01-2014, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

None yet, but the tune with the Jackson Racing factory tuned kit is HEAVILY deviated from the factory tune... a lot of world renowned tuners (that I unfortunately cannot name) contributed to it.

The DI seal failure happens with no warning, but we have enough miles on the 2014 that we should have seen the failure by now if it were going to happen. We didn't average many miles between DI seal failures on the 2013.

I'm at 6,000 miles with a LOT of that being track miles and keep "waiting" to see if it's gonna show up.... but knock on wood I haven't had any sign (no CEL, backfiring/popping, etc) , it's a 2/2013 build.

regal · 03-01-2014, 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vgi

those who cared to try have it working.

Yep, my 2012 is getting this:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=367

Great forum, I knew a budget solution would pop up eventually. I thinks if you have a 2012 build a $200 tatrix cable + the above would be a smart move if you have a windows laptop.

Opinions?

vgi · 03-01-2014, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

None yet, but the tune with the Jackson Racing factory tuned kit is HEAVILY deviated from the factory tune... a lot of world renowned tuners (that I unfortunately cannot name) contributed to it.

The DI seal failure happens with no warning, but we have enough miles on the 2014 that we should have seen the failure by now if it were going to happen. We didn't average many miles between DI seal failures on the 2013.

Mike I remember you posted that Feb 2013 factory tunes does not fix the DI issue. So you think the tune from "world renowned tuners" actually fixes it?

Or is because you have actually changed your shifting style, which you also posted about?

View Poll Results: Have you had an issue with your Direct Injection System?
I have had a DI issue and was fixed under warranty (Subaru)	10	12.35%
I had a DI issue that caused Engine Failure and was fixed under warranty (Subaru)	2	2.47%
I have had a DI issue and was fixed under warranty (Toyota)	31	38.27%
I have had a DI issue that caused Engine Failure and was fixed under warranty (Toyota)	3	3.70%
I have had a DI issue and denied warranty by (Subaru)	7	8.64%
I have had a DI issue and denied warranty by (Toyota)	14	17.28%
I had a DI issue that caused Engine Failure and was Denied warranty (Subaru)	8	9.88%
I had a DI issue that caused Engine Failure and was Denied warranty (Toyota)	6	7.41%
Voters: 81. You may not vote on this poll

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kiichiro corolla specs/GTR looks Join Date: May 2013 Drives: ooh oooh pretty tail lights Location: slower than a accord V6 Posts: 490 Thanks: 229 Thanked 113 Times in 79 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Three words for di seal life Cool down lap __________________ SOLD THEM BOTH Hers: 2007 987S Mine: 2012 991S That was fun, thanks Hachi

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