BRZ complaint

[Brzetto]

Originally Posted by ottopilot

Should've bought a volvo

The dumb bastard should try a vespa, cars like this are for smarter people only. Dear Customer, turn in your keys and buy another car, in laymans terms get your ass away from our brand as quickly as possible.

[Lytheum]

This is my only experience with an OEM nav/touchscreen, but I think its much better then the pioneer avic z110 in my last car. That thing didn't even have a volume knob....just tiny little buttons that you could never find.

[SubaSteve]

[shirker]

Originally Posted by BryanGT

I develop touch user interfaces for a living, and the BRZ Limited's touchscreen head-unit is a total piece of shit, here's why:

1. There physical hardware buttons (side from than the volume knob) are dedicated to functions that aren't used enough to justify a hardware button. Physical buttons can be operated without looks, and thus they should be allocated to common interactions like channel presets, or at least up/down to cycle through those presets.
2. The screen digitizer calibration sucks, it's easy to "miss" onscreen buttons. The lag between touch and response is too damn high.
3. Radio station presets and the tuning buttons are located towards the center of the screen instead of the physical edge, which aggravates gorilla arm, and forces you to take your eyes off the road to see a simple station change. Locating these soft buttons near the edge (especially near physical cues along the edge) would eliminate some of the need for the aforementioned hard buttons.

Given all that I actually agree with the dude. They made the UI so shitty that secondary physical button (on the wheel or wherever) would really improve safety.

Common sense tells me that the stock nav UI sucks. Having taken a few human-computer interaction classes tells me that the stock nav UI is downright abominable. Reminds me of the first-gen iDrive.

[antlers]

The people complaining about this type of shit need to pay attention to the road not the radio. If you're that concerned about the song that's on the radio you certainly aren't paying as much attention to the road as you should be. Let alone drinking coffee and talking on the damn telephone. DRIVE THE FUCKING CAR.

[spdfreak]

Originally Posted by antlers

The people complaining about this type of shit need to pay attention to the road not the radio. If you're that concerned about the song that's on the radio you certainly aren't paying as much attention to the road as you should be. Let alone drinking coffee and talking on the damn telephone. DRIVE THE FUCKING CAR.

You tell em.

[Brzetto]

Originally Posted by SubaSteve

This guy stole his motto from the 1980 movie Used Cars. Here is proof.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ip8gspFaH8"]Too Fuckin High - YouTube[/ame]

[Wattage]

This is why i like the frs stereo unit. Looks like shit but i can feel the buttons easily

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by BryanGT

I develop touch user interfaces for a living, and the BRZ Limited's touchscreen head-unit is a total piece of shit, here's why:

1. There physical hardware buttons (side from than the volume knob) are dedicated to functions that aren't used enough to justify a hardware button. Physical buttons can be operated without looks, and thus they should be allocated to common interactions like channel presets, or at least up/down to cycle through those presets.
2. The screen digitizer calibration sucks, it's easy to "miss" onscreen buttons. The lag between touch and response is too damn high.
3. Radio station presets and the tuning buttons are located towards the center of the screen instead of the physical edge, which aggravates gorilla arm, and forces you to take your eyes off the road to see a simple station change. Locating these soft buttons near the edge (especially near physical cues along the edge) would eliminate some of the need for the aforementioned hard buttons.

Given all that I actually agree with the dude. They made the UI so shitty that secondary physical button (on the wheel or wherever) would really improve safety.

Agreed that it's a shit UI and the touchscreen is inaccurate and slow.

However, I don't stare at it while driving and I have never felt it was unsafe to operate. I just use the next/previous for presets instead of the preset screen, put your finger over the button (takes what, .2 seconds to glance?) and leave it there until you find a channel with something good. :shrug:

Plus it's not like you can't replace the head unit if you want. Makes a lot more sense than trying to get a recall because someone is too stupid to figure out how to deal with the shitty UI.

I'd rather have a shitty UI and no steering wheel controls than a shitty UI and steering wheel controls I hate steering wheel controls. If it annoyed me that much I would simply replace the HU.

[Wilsonk227]

Originally Posted by Vmax911

The guy who complained definitely needs to get his car into the dealer. Not because of the nav unit, but due to the abs problem he has allowing him to lock up the wheels!

i'm kind of skeptical that he knew what "lock up the wheels" actually meant. :P lol

[a2cpc]

Personally, I agree with those that would like to have controls on the the wheel. Purists will say that it isn't necessary and a distraction. When driving for the "joy" of driving I agree, but for most that is what maybe 10% of the time at best. For day to day, commuting and highway driving I prefer the wheel controls. I also think wheel controls are safer if you use the radio or phone.

[industrial]

Originally Posted by BryanGT

I develop touch user interfaces for a living, and the BRZ Limited's touchscreen head-unit is a total piece of shit, here's why:

1. There physical hardware buttons (side from than the volume knob) are dedicated to functions that aren't used enough to justify a hardware button. Physical buttons can be operated without looks, and thus they should be allocated to common interactions like channel presets, or at least up/down to cycle through those presets.
2. The screen digitizer calibration sucks, it's easy to "miss" onscreen buttons. The lag between touch and response is too damn high.
3. Radio station presets and the tuning buttons are located towards the center of the screen instead of the physical edge, which aggravates gorilla arm, and forces you to take your eyes off the road to see a simple station change. Locating these soft buttons near the edge (especially near physical cues along the edge) would eliminate some of the need for the aforementioned hard buttons.

Given all that I actually agree with the dude. They made the UI so shitty that secondary physical button (on the wheel or wherever) would really improve safety.

Agree with all that. In addition, it drives me CRAZY that I have to scroll down to switch between bluetooth audio and my iphone when my iphone is confused about whether to send a signal through bluetooth or the dock connector.

Why does the first row of selections include things like AM radio, XM radio and CD which I NEVER use and bluetooth which I use often is on another page?

A little thing but it drives me crazy sometimes.

[thill]

Yes, the UI of the NAV/radio is just horrible. I really just want like 6 channel presets for the radio that have giant buttons... At some point I can see myself upgrading. I don't even care that much about built in NAV since Google on a phone is so much better anyway.

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

I'd rather have a shitty UI and no steering wheel controls than a shitty UI and steering wheel controls I hate steering wheel controls. If it annoyed me that much I would simply replace the HU.

This. If you feel you can't change the presets without crashing into the car in front of you or slamming on the brakes, then wait till you are at a stop light or pull over to the side of the road to change the radio station.