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CSG Mike · 08-01-2013, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by thill

I meant tracked.

Have you ever Googled "Counter Space Garage + BRZ", or "CSG Mike + BRZ"?

What is your lawyer advocating at this point?

That has no bearing on warranty coverage. Hell, they market it as a track-ready car! Have you read the OP? In case you haven't, I'll quote myself.

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

http://www.media.subaru.com/newsrelease.do;jsessionid=082111D510198B58EA270BF8 F60EC831?&id=190&mid=127

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With 2+2 seating and a folding rear seat, there is sufficient cargo space to transport four race tires and tools to track days.

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Seeking a pure sports car for road and track driving, Subaru followed a purist approach to engineering the 2013 BRZ.

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A standard Torsen® limited-slip differential helps the inside wheel maintain traction during hard cornering. For track driving, the standard Vehicle Stability Control (VSC) stability and traction control system (TCS) offers the driver five different settings, including a Sport mode and a TCS Off switch for track driving activities.

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Drivers who enjoy slalom or track events can also fold the rear seatback and have room for four wheels, a helmet and basic supplies and still have room for the front passenger.

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The five-mode driver-selectable Vehicle Stability Control (VSC) system and traction control system allows the driver the tailor the system to conditions and performance needs; stability and traction control can be disengaged for track driving events, for example.

It'll get interesting when they officially deny warranty coverage on our catalytic converters, because at that point, the state will step in, and I'm sure you've heard of how strict California emissions laws are.

CSG Mike · 08-01-2013, 12:35 PM

PDF version of said press release

www.media.subaru.com/pdf.do?id=189‎

thill · 08-01-2013, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

That has no bearing on warranty coverage. Hell, they market it as a track-ready car! Have you read the OP? In case you haven't, I'll quote myself.

It'll get interesting when they officially deny warranty coverage on our catalytic converters, because at that point, the state will step in, and I'm sure you've heard of how strict California emissions laws are.

I have read all that and I am still not convinced that having your car plastered all over the Internet on the track is helping your cause. Not trying to be a prick, and not an attorney. At this point if I was you I would just turn everything over to an attorney, follow their advice and go from there.

Like I said, I am in your corner, I think Subaru should 100% step up and replace your engine. But it is pretty clear at this point it is going to take legal action on your part to get the car either fixed or Subaru to buy it back so you can move on.

ATL BRZ · 08-01-2013, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

PDF version of said press release

www.media.subaru.com/pdf.do?id=189‎

Was just taken down, lol

Got a mirror?

xjohnx · 08-01-2013, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ATL BRZ

Was just taken down, lol

Got a mirror?

it just worked for me

ATL BRZ · 08-01-2013, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by xjohnx

it just worked for me

Weird, just worked now. I got a page not found after multiple attempts a few minutes ago.

rice_classic · 08-01-2013, 12:55 PM

I get "page not found" message also.

CSG Mike · 08-01-2013, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ATL BRZ

Was just taken down, lol

Got a mirror?

It's a download link, but here's the "web" version.

http://www.media.subaru.com/newsrele...mid=127‎

neutron256 · 08-01-2013, 01:05 PM

Maybe they shouldn’t promote it as being a track car, but I still don’t feel like they should be on the hook for everyone who blows an engine as a result of driving on the track.
Was this a result of track driving, or a manufacturer defect? Probably the defect, but made much worse by pushing it hard at the track. Under normal driving this might have been a simple repair as opposed to a catastrophic failure.
So where do you draw the line?...

CSG Mike · 08-01-2013, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by neutron256

Maybe they shouldn’t promote it as being a track car, but I still don’t feel like they should be on the hook for everyone who blows an engine as a result of driving on the track.
Was this a result of track driving, or a manufacturer defect? Probably the defect, but made much worse by pushing it hard at the track. Under normal driving this might have been a simple repair as opposed to a catastrophic failure.
So where do you draw the line?...

Fortune favors the bold... I hope.

SigmaHyperion · 08-01-2013, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by neutron256

Probably the defect, but made much worse by pushing it hard at the track. Under normal driving this might have been a simple repair as opposed to a catastrophic failure.
So where do you draw the line?...

Since the OP contacted Subaru before the problem became catastrophic, and Subaru was entirely unwilling to even look at the car until it was throwing a CEL, and it didn't throw a CEL until the engine was already dead, it wouldn't have mattered if the car was slowly puttered around town.

Stevo22 · 08-01-2013, 01:42 PM

Does anyone know how warranties work in other countries? Are they similar to the US?

Chee-Hu · 08-01-2013, 02:03 PM

I'm scared to all hell taking the tachometer higher than 5k after reading this whole thread. Toyota/Subaru need to man up and fix this crap. It makes me miss all my Honda cars now with their high-rev motors w/o major headaches.

suaveflooder · 08-01-2013, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Chee-Hu

I'm scared to all hell taking the tachometer higher than 5k after reading this whole thread. Toyota/Subaru need to man up and fix this crap. It makes me miss all my Honda cars now with their high-rev motors w/o major headaches.

If you own a BRZ, I can understand being scared. Thankfully, Toyota seems to be MUCH more forgiving, even encouraging of using this car on a track. My dealership told me to go for it! If something breaks, bring it in and we'll take care of it.

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neutron256 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: '13 GBS Subaru BRZ Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 2,030 Thanks: 680 Thanked 664 Times in 382 Posts Mentioned: 26 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Maybe they shouldn’t promote it as being a track car, but I still don’t feel like they should be on the hook for everyone who blows an engine as a result of driving on the track. Was this a result of track driving, or a manufacturer defect? Probably the defect, but made much worse by pushing it hard at the track. Under normal driving this might have been a simple repair as opposed to a catastrophic failure. So where do you draw the line?... __________________ -Fortes fortuna adiuvat (Fortune favors the bold)

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