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bslate3 · 05-08-2015, 12:16 AM

I'm looking at getting Bilstein shocks. How are the OTS ones? Or is it better to get custom valved right away for autocross?

chucky12012 · 05-08-2015, 11:59 AM

OTS is good and an improvement over stock, but custom valved is a world better. They will make the car generally uncomfortable for DD though. OTS is pretty much as comfortable for DD as the stock.

qoncept · 05-08-2015, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jawnathin

Really? At a local? Sounds like power got to someone's head over there.

Tech isn't there to determine eligibility for a class, they are there to ensure your car is safe to run.

Yeah. I shouldn't say super-heavily scrutinized, but they looked at and asked about springs, sway bars, ECU, etc. I honestly think it was more "does this guy know the rules?" than anything. I had a front sway bar, catback and tires in CSR at the time.

solort · 05-10-2015, 07:50 PM

So is it legal to run 17x7.5 rear wheels since the TRD wheels (port installed?) are 18x7 front and 18x7.5 rear?

And what offset are the TRD 18x7/ 18x7.5 wheels?

Cueman · 05-10-2015, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by solort

So is it legal to run 17x7.5 rear wheels since the TRD wheels (port installed?) are 18x7 front and 18x7.5 rear?

And what offset are the TRD 18x7/ 18x7.5 wheels?

There is zero documentation to support the idea that those wheels are a port installed option.

Offset is +35. If you find documentation, you won't be the only one with a set.

Briankbot · 05-11-2015, 12:51 AM

So I have to ask...Would most people on here think there would be a benefit to wider rear wheels?

I am struggling to get my car to rotate on throttle as is, and I know of at least two other people who've had the same issue. Maybe something in my setup is all wrong, but for now I feel like more rear traction is the last thing I need.

Cueman · 05-11-2015, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Briankbot

So I have to ask...Would most people on here think there would be a benefit to wider rear wheels?

I am struggling to get my car to rotate on throttle as is, and I know of at least two other people who've had the same issue. Maybe something in my setup is all wrong, but for now I feel like more rear traction is the last thing I need.

yah. The last thing any race car needs is more traction.

renfield90 · 05-11-2015, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Briankbot

So I have to ask...Would most people on here think there would be a benefit to wider rear wheels?

I am struggling to get my car to rotate on throttle as is, and I know of at least two other people who've had the same issue. Maybe something in my setup is all wrong, but for now I feel like more rear traction is the last thing I need.

If you are having this problem then your setup is on the right path IMO.

Now...the TRD wheels are not C Street legal. I put that shit in bold so if anybody misses it, I'm gonna make fun of them.

That said running mismatched wheel widths with a stock motor in this car is batty. Some of you guys think this car has Z06 power or something, and you're running mismatched tires with 1/4" toe in. If the car is too loose it's a suspension tuning problem, not a "zomg not enough grip for how much powah I have" problem.

I'm gonna have my morning coffee now and settle down.

DylanFRS · 05-11-2015, 01:02 PM

Anyone going to be at Spring Nationals? If so, you should come by and say hi to me, 45 CS.

AustinTX · 05-11-2015, 01:26 PM

I'd run the wider wheels to get better transient response at a minimum.

MTeator · 05-11-2015, 01:31 PM

Combine the wider rear wheels with my Hotchkis bar and I can just pretend to turn.

simpleisbest · 05-11-2015, 02:29 PM

Dont think the wheels are port installed options. They just happen to have the same language as other port installed options on the Scion website, because they are sold without any labor charges. The way it was explained to me by the dealer, was that the wheel PNs are without tires. Thus the wheels can be bought without labor, but the in order to have them on the car and part of the sticker package, tires would be installed and charged accordingly.

vroom4 · 05-11-2015, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MTeator

Combine the wider rear wheels with my Hotchkis bar and I can just pretend to turn.

Haha yup. That's a big ass front bar. On tight corses it's a handful

Briankbot · 05-11-2015, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DylanFRS

Anyone going to be at Spring Nationals? If so, you should come by and say hi to me, 45 CS.

I should be there, 84 CS.

05-11-2015, 01:26 PM	#3020
AustinTX Pawn in game of life Join Date: Nov 2013 Drives: 19 STX BRZzz Location: ATX Posts: 245 Thanks: 26 Thanked 50 Times in 33 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'd run the wider wheels to get better transient response at a minimum. __________________ Autocross nut

05-11-2015, 01:31 PM	#3021
MTeator First 86 Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 303 Thanks: 14 Thanked 98 Times in 56 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Combine the wider rear wheels with my Hotchkis bar and I can just pretend to turn. __________________ Scion First 86 in Lexington KY - Firestorm 6MT - Delivered May 17, 2012 Mods: Motegi 17x7 TrakLites, BFG Rivals, K&N 33-2300 Filter, Nameless Perf. Track Pipe, TRD springs & rear bar, Hotchkis front bar (eh), Kask trailer hitch

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bslate3 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Drives: 2015 CWP BRZ Location: Crowley, TX Posts: 276 Thanks: 25 Thanked 58 Times in 45 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I'm looking at getting Bilstein shocks. How are the OTS ones? Or is it better to get custom valved right away for autocross?

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chucky12012 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 Asphalt Scion FR-S Location: Houston, TX Posts: 129 Thanks: 10 Thanked 41 Times in 27 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	OTS is good and an improvement over stock, but custom valved is a world better. They will make the car generally uncomfortable for DD though. OTS is pretty much as comfortable for DD as the stock.

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solort Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Drives: Series 10 FRS Location: AL Posts: 177 Thanks: 3 Thanked 30 Times in 19 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So is it legal to run 17x7.5 rear wheels since the TRD wheels (port installed?) are 18x7 front and 18x7.5 rear? And what offset are the TRD 18x7/ 18x7.5 wheels?

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Briankbot Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Drives: 2013 FRS Location: Colorado Posts: 102 Thanks: 63 Thanked 34 Times in 22 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So I have to ask...Would most people on here think there would be a benefit to wider rear wheels? I am struggling to get my car to rotate on throttle as is, and I know of at least two other people who've had the same issue. Maybe something in my setup is all wrong, but for now I feel like more rear traction is the last thing I need.

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simpleisbest Senior Citizen Join Date: May 2012 Drives: Scion FR-S Location: So. Cal Posts: 571 Thanks: 143 Thanked 186 Times in 121 Posts Mentioned: 11 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Dont think the wheels are port installed options. They just happen to have the same language as other port installed options on the Scion website, because they are sold without any labor charges. The way it was explained to me by the dealer, was that the wheel PNs are without tires. Thus the wheels can be bought without labor, but the in order to have them on the car and part of the sticker package, tires would be installed and charged accordingly.

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