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Old 01-30-2012, 03:03 PM   #15
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really can you tell me why your doing that...not being sarcastic just asking
Few quick reasons. I only want this car in a right hand drive( which if this law passes in the comming years you wont be able to buy any imported car to the US). So off the bat. It pretty much limits it to the Gt-86. Which is fine with me because i prefer the toyota badge. ( i have no beef with scion at all). Dont want to go into details for the rest, but the GT-86 is just the better option for me when it comes to making it unique to me only.
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Old 01-30-2012, 03:56 PM   #16
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Few quick reasons. I only want this car in a right hand drive( which if this law passes in the comming years you wont be able to buy any imported car to the US). So off the bat. It pretty much limits it to the Gt-86. Which is fine with me because i prefer the toyota badge. ( i have no beef with scion at all). Dont want to go into details for the rest, but the GT-86 is just the better option for me when it comes to making it unique to me only.
How do you plan on getting Subaru to say, in writing on their letterhead, that the RHD model provides the same crash safety as the LHD? Even if it does, I don't think I've ever seen a manufacturer take on unnecessary liability like that.

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If the vehicle you are seeking to import is a RHD, even if there were a U.S.-certified left-hand version of that vehicle, it might not be considered "substantially similar" for import eligibility purposes. Our experience has shown that the safety performance of RHD vehicles is not necessarily the same as that of apparently similar left-hand drive vehicles offered for sale in this country. However, NHTSA will consider the vehicles "substantially similar" if the manufacturer advises the agency in writing, on the manufacturer’s letterhead (and not that of an authorized dealership or other such entity affiliated with the manufacturer) that the RHD vehicle would perform the same as the U.S.-certified left-hand drive vehicle in crash tests.
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Old 01-30-2012, 04:09 PM   #17
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#1 reason to not get RHD in north america

our traffic systems are designed around a heavy reliance on left-hand turns made during an active light.

by sitting on the right side you a) can't always see oncoming traffic while turning left b) in the event of an accident the chances of you being fucked go way up
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Facepalm. This is the same converted-from-the-Yen pricing that we saw a couple weeks ago. Move along.
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Facepalm. This is the same converted-from-the-Yen pricing that we saw a couple weeks ago. Move along.
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I'm waiting for the "OFFiCIAL BRZ/FRS PRICING RELEASED" thread.
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Old 01-30-2012, 04:30 PM   #20
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I'm waiting for the smell of ink as the excited Scion salesman bends me over his desk, pressing my face against the purchase agreement knowing full well that i can't bargain with him on price one way or the other.

you don't know what you will pay until you pay it.

MSRP is MSRP and direct cost is direct cost

however much a single dealership will give you a deal depends on the dealership

then you got random shit like freight, delivery, and taxes, which are different from state to state to province (13% in Ontario!)
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I think the BRZ seems to have a bit more quality fit and finish then scions but we will see either way i want every TRD part i can get on this sucka for less then 30k

The quality of the interior and exterior is exactly the same between the Subaru BRZ, Scion FR-S and the Toyota GT-86. Why would they make two different dash boards?

The problem is a lot of the FR-S\BRZ we have seen were still pre-production units.

Even the dash board is the same in the BRZ premium vs the BRZ Limited. The difference is in the details like the leather in the door panels\knee pads center console which is on the limited but not the premium brz and scion FR-S. Plus the limited has the leather trim\Alcantara seats. The limited looks better inside because of that leather trim and the dual zone HVAC looks more classy.

Also look at a premium BRZ interior and it is exactly the same as the interior in the FR-S, except for the painted silver trim (BRZ) vs the fake carbon fibre trim (FR-S).

The BRZ has its navigation system, and the FR-S has it bespoke (word is still out if this is standard or not, but it is shown in the upcoming FR-S commercial.)

So for a BRZ premium vs the FR-S...it comes down to if you want HIDs with LED DRL's as standard vs the FR-S's cheaper looking halogen projectors.

Both cars are going to drive the same.

Oh and price. Hell we are all thinking that the FR-S is going to be the cheaper one of the two...we could all be wrong.
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I'm 90%sure we saw a thread like this a week ago
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FRS will start below $26000.
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WHAT!!! THEY LOCK ALL MY POST ABOUT THIS AND THEY LET THIS ONE FLY? WTF
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WHAT!!! THEY LOCK ALL MY POST ABOUT THIS AND THEY LET THIS ONE FLY? WTF
As ridiculous as your thread was, I have to agree with you.
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The quality of the interior and exterior is exactly the same between the Subaru BRZ, Scion FR-S and the Toyota GT-86. Why would they make two different dash boards?

The problem is a lot of the FR-S\BRZ we have seen were still pre-production units.

Even the dash board is the same in the BRZ premium vs the BRZ Limited. The difference is in the details like the leather in the door panels\knee pads center console which is on the limited but not the premium brz and scion FR-S. Plus the limited has the leather trim\Alcantara seats. The limited looks better inside because of that leather trim and the dual zone HVAC looks more classy.

Also look at a premium BRZ interior and it is exactly the same as the interior in the FR-S, except for the painted silver trim (BRZ) vs the fake carbon fibre trim (FR-S).

The BRZ has its navigation system, and the FR-S has it bespoke (word is still out if this is standard or not, but it is shown in the upcoming FR-S commercial.)

So for a BRZ premium vs the FR-S...it comes down to if you want HIDs with LED DRL's as standard vs the FR-S's cheaper looking halogen projectors.

Both cars are going to drive the same.

Oh and price. Hell we are all thinking that the FR-S is going to be the cheaper one of the two...we could all be wrong.

Trust me on this one TOYOTA has worse fit and finish then Subbie...to a customer you will not see the differences up front or right away after driving the car for 6 months you will start to see what i mean...working at a toyota dealership as a sales manager and shooting the shit with the mechanics in the back you learn all types of things
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Trust me on this one TOYOTA has worse fit and finish then Subbie...to a customer you will not see the differences up front or right away after driving the car for 6 months you will start to see what i mean...working at a toyota dealership as a sales manager and shooting the shit with the mechanics in the back you learn all types of things
And none of that matters considering Toyota isn't building this car.

And BTW 6 years later the fit & finish on my Toyota is still tight; no rattles and no buzzes.
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As ridiculous as your thread was, I have to agree with you.
Hence why i rarely part take in forum conversation because of rules of having car conversation...we should start regulating what people talk about at car meets too then
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