TRD 86 / FR-S Officially Announced (Parts List and Photos)

[Ikaros]

Originally Posted by DeepHunta

Well darn! I guess I just got skooled! Looks like I'm sticking with my BRZ Limited pre-order.

Lol, my tone was a bit harsh, but when I saw the list parts a while back I thought it meant push button start too, but when I looked into it further it was just an over priced button >_>

Then when I saw your post it got me excited again, only to have my hopes crushed twice xD

[shunya]

Originally Posted by chessplaya2010

this doesnt look like a stock manifold... it looks more like a header.... i dont recall seeing a header on other 'open-hood' shots prior to this one....

i dunno how that doesn't tell you it's the rear end of the car :P

[Grip Ronin]

Originally Posted by HotLavaMan

They eliminate flex between the door and the frame. This makes the door rigid relative to the rest of the car and helps to reduce overall flex through the whole car. That is the theory. Supposedly they work quite well.

I've seen videos of cars (Genesis Coupe FWIW) on the track where the camera was behind the car door looking forward and the gap between the door and the body varies as the car slaloms through turns.

Not clear if Scion is going to bring this particular piece of equipment to the US. It may have something to do with crash tests or something, don't know.

im gonna go research that on the genesis, crazy that little piece can stop door flex. worth the investment though

[86knecht]

Some of the TRD parts are not necessary. I would love to have the brakes and seats. Your average coilover is probably just as good as the trd coilover

[86knecht]

Originally Posted by shunya

i dunno how that doesn't tell you it's the rear end of the car :P

It also looks like a heat sheild. Same kinda het sheild most factory cars use to cover a turbo... Just sayin

[FT86Katsu]

so i get a little confused on the TRD thing. Do you order the TRD parts for you car? or do they just make a complete TRD version of the car?

[Primo86]

The big brake kit is a must, unless Brembo decides to come out with a kit for the FR-S (which they almost surely will) the TRD ones will be the best bet as far as money/quality, but the Brembos might be dangerously close to the TRD price since its such a new car.
StopTechs are great and a little cheaper sometimes but you might as well save up for the best because they are all going to be far north of 2,000 $.

The exhaust is awesome and so are the shocks...
my heart tells me that Remus or Akraprovic is going to make an exhaust that will be better... the ones AK makes for BMW's save 20-30 LBS and add nearly as much HP. very impressive stuff.

The shocks are going to be good, but KW, JRZ, Eibach, and Nitron are going to be making coil-over kits which will be a lot better, and deff. available in the North American market....TRD has a nasty habit of over-pricing their gear and leaving the U.S. out of their product range - unless you plan to pay.

The body kit looks great- to me. The problem with almost EVERY aftermarket body kit is quality. I work at a shop and see this all the time- and have experienced it myself. Toyota has millions of dollars to spend on researching and developing their products to withstand daily abuse. most aftermarket kits are made by great companies (GReddy, etc.) but simply dont have the money and time to make it as well as TRD can. I bought a GReddy front lip for my 05' Celica, it looked great, was made great, and bolted on with no modification. As soon as I tapped a high curb, it exploded in thirty pieces. TRD kits simply dont do this, they are manufactured to the same specs the OEM Toyota parts are made to- they are durable, look great, and bolt-on. If i were to buy any kit, it would be this one for those simple reasons.

Note: mostly all aftermarket kits need to be lightly to heavily modified to fit their intended space on the car- sometimes this requires spending 100's of dollars at the body shop to get it done right. regardless of what their website says or what Andy's Autosport or w.e. says, this is simply true. TRD kits will NOT need this extra work and cost... maybe a slight, tiny, bit of sanding or scuffing, but thats about it. trust me on this one, its just not worth the gamble.

As far as the "door support" is concerned, i consider it to be a superficial accessory like a TRD oil filler cap or a TRD shifter- they look awesome and are great quality, but affect the cars performance and handling in no way. with that being said, i am probably going to buy them. =]

[Hanakuso]

Originally Posted by Primo86

The big brake kit is a must, unless Brembo decides to come out with a kit for the FR-S (which they almost surely will) the TRD ones will be the best bet as far as money/quality, but the Brembos might be dangerously close to the TRD price since its such a new car.
StopTechs are great and a little cheaper sometimes but you might as well save up for the best because they are all going to be far north of 2,000 $.

Are you saying the BBK is a must for this car? Big brake kits arent a must, especially for the people that only see the track few times a year.

Even I'd you make the FRS/BRZ a dedicated track car upgraded pads, brake lines and fluids will be good enough

[Primo86]

Originally Posted by Hanakuso

Are you saying the BBK is a must for this car? Big brake kits arent a must, especially for the people that only see the track few times a year.

Even I'd you make the FRS/BRZ a dedicated track car upgraded pads, brake lines and fluids will be good enough

you are 100% correct, i am speaking in terms of someone modifying the entire car as many plan to, adding power, suspension, and removing weight deff. calls for bigger breaks....

in my opinion, stopping is more important then going... but the stock breaks will be more then perfect, i am going to leave them be for a long time as more products arrive and develop.

unless you plan on tracking the car every weekend, the stock brakes are great, but if you do, big brakes are awesome. just to clear it up.

[rice_classic]

Brakes don't stop the car. The tires do. Brakes only convert kinetic energy into heat (unless you have KERS, then it converts energy back into stored energy, and this car does not have KERS).

Let's be clear on WHY they're awesome. I say that because my race car has 9.5" rotors and I do just fine. BUT, I do just fine because I have 1600 degree pads, 600 degree brake fluid and brake ducts.

So here's a list of big brake benefits but even if you track the car a lot I still argue that they're not *needed* regarding getting the job done, but they are nice and here's a couple reasons.

1: with big brakes, the rotor has a significantly larger surface area to dissipate heat and the larger disc acts also as a larger heat sink. This results in:
1a: The heat generated is the same but the temperature won't be as great as the heat is spread over a larger surface area putting less heat into moving parts: caliper sliders, ball joints, tie rod ends and wheel bearings.
1b: Braking heat is transfered into the hub and the bearing and with the larger rotor, the heat generated is spread over a larger mass, more heat is dissipated quicker and with the blades further away from the center... less heat is transferred to the hub and bearing.
2: With big brakes it allows a track junky to simply run an aggressive street pad meaning they won't need to swap out to "track only" pads for the event since the pads won't see crazy temps and they won't need to bleed their fluid as frequently.


Just to re-iterate, with proper fluid, pads and ducting the stock brakes will do what you need them to do even if you're a proper track junky, they just won't do it "conveniently" (cuz pads, fluid, ducting! ). Primo has the right mind for a brake upgrade considering his intended use.

I hope this helps.

[dolp86]

Anyone knows site listing prices?

[MANDALAY]

Originally Posted by serialk11r

You have proof? As it stands, the engine is capable of sucking in the same amount of air as the 2ZZ, and is a little bit more efficient. That won't make a magical 20% extra power appear from nowhere.

I hope they develop a Rotrex SC kit. HKS has but claim its their own SC.
Wont get into that debate.

I have Toyotas last GEN 4 that was available in Japan in a SW20. Its 2 liters Red Top. I reduced the C/R from 11:1 to 8.9 : 1 and forged the internals.
Have a intermediate sized Rotrex and have 350 RWHP thats with a stock airbox and 15 PSI.
Now this engine on paper has the same power at flywheel as mine so > 300 RWHP is easily achievable.
But wouldnt be adding FI without lowering the C/R even with an intercooler

IF YOU GET the chance drive a Rotrex driven car and experience it.

[FRS_KOTO]

Does TRD have pulley like the perrin ?

Thanks

[whateatsrabbits]

I thought the Sports Meter Link System would be cool to have those extra gauges. After I looked into it the gauges replace your radio??? I wonder if you could relocate the radio...