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View Poll Results: Should I sell my a/t and buy an m/t?
Yes 78 52.70%
No, keep the a/t 41 27.70%
Keep the a/t, sell later down the road 22 14.86%
Keep the a/t, do a manual swap later down the road 7 4.73%
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Old 04-05-2013, 05:46 PM   #57
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find out how much you would be losing and then decide if the manual is worth that much. its probably better to to it before the 2014 is out in case the model year depreciates
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Im not sure if its been brought up yet but have you tried driving the car around in manual mode only? I regretted my decision for awhile until I switched to manual mode every where I go and to be honest I don't regret it anymore. Its still fun. And every day when I get stuck in traffic for 45 minutes on the way home I switch it back to auto. So try it for a week. I know the auto is slower but the car isnt even fast to begin with.
yes! i noticed this! to me,the car has plenty of "balls",and when ya drive it in manual mode (stick) it's still a ton of fun. as you mentioned,in heavy traffic,just go back into "auto" mode,and everything's kewl!
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Old 04-05-2013, 08:07 PM   #59
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As others have mentioned, manual mode on the AT FR-S is great. It's super quick and responsive and is definitely an option if you want to get more of a manual experience without losing a couple thousand dollars.

Personally I'm very happy with my AT FR-S as I can play around with it when I want to and not be miserable in traffic (well, you know what I mean).
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Im not sure if its been brought up yet but have you tried driving the car around in manual mode only? I regretted my decision for awhile until I switched to manual mode every where I go and to be honest I don't regret it anymore. Its still fun. And every day when I get stuck in traffic for 45 minutes on the way home I switch it back to auto. So try it for a week. I know the auto is slower but the car isnt even fast to begin with.
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I have had nothing but sports cars my entire life and this one was the first automatic I have ever owned. I used to tell people I would rather masturbate with a cheese grater than buy an automatic sports car. After test driving both the 6MT and 6AT, I went with the "new" technology.

If I'm honest, I do miss being able to launch hard when autocrossing, but that AT just shifts so precisely and quickly, I have a hard time even calling it a "slush" box because it really isn't. My wife's tC has a "slush box" and I HATE it. The FRS AT is just so much better.

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ohhhh! masturbating with a cheese grater! sounds hurtful.anyway,yes, this box shifts incredibly quick,and as wild as this sounds,i DON'T miss the clutch.car's got plenty of 'grunt" for me. thought i would never say that,being used to "stick" all my life.
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As others have mentioned, manual mode on the AT FR-S is great. It's super quick and responsive and is definitely an option if you want to get more of a manual experience without losing a couple thousand dollars.

Personally I'm very happy with my AT FR-S as I can play around with it when I want to and not be miserable in traffic (well, you know what I mean).
i agree! "the times,they are a changin"
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It would be a stupid decision to lose money on a trade in for a M/T car, if the loss is going to be excessive. It feels like at least a $5000 hit if you were to trade it in on a new MT car, and that's just hilariously out of the question for me. Just don't do it. Options:

1) Post somewhere that you want to do a trade for a M/T car of similar mileage, and see what pops up.

2) Put it in manual mode and use paddle shifting exclusively.

3) Leave it in auto mode and pretend to row the shifter while pumping your left foot on the dead pedal.


In my opinion, if the financial hit is excessive, then it is simply not worth it. It's not like the car is a completely POS with an AT, it's just less involving to drive than a MT but nonetheless still the same car underneath.

edit: I just took a look at the poll results so far.

Yes 64 52.46%
No, keep the a/t 32 26.23%
Keep the a/t, sell later down the road 19 15.57%
Keep the a/t, do a manual swap later down the road 7 5.74%

64 people say to take a big financial hit for no other reason than to get a M/T car. That's more than double those who voted for you to keep the A/T, and of those only the 2nd and 3rd options are actually viable. If the hit was like... $1000 - $1500, that's really not bad if you want to be happy. But I'm thinking the hit is a hell of a lot higher than that.

Think of it this way. Somewhere out there, there's a salesman who could use your $5000 in his bank account. All you have to do is go over there and do it.

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yeah! give the sales guy a break! food's goin' up
man likes to eat. don't f**k around with that,you WILL lose too much scratch
as others have said,and they are right!.you might try this!..everytime you drive it,
tell yourself,ya got a ''stick" by driving it in manual mode using shift lever.to be honest,in time it will just be an "event phsycological" and of little concern,because of the 'fun" nature of the car!
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Thanks for all the awesome answers, guys!

Anyway this topic is pretty much done because I went to Toyota Temecula and they traded in my argento auto fr-s for a new asphalt manual fr-s.

I love the color and I'm soo much more happy with the transmission now! Took me a while but I almost have it down smoothly going to go out again tomorrow/this weekend to perfect my smooth starts

And if anybody is on the fence this car just comes alive with the manual so much more than the auto! Its weird! If I ever drove the m/t before the auto I would've gotten the m/t for sure. Engine & exhaust sound much better and the shifter is phenomenal. And it definitely pulls better.

I still stick to my assessment that the auto is a great auto but I gotta say the manual adds so much more to the experience IMO. Auto is wonderful in that it lets you keep your hands on the wheel at all times (steering feel in this car is really great) and that it lets you cruise in town but for performance & just feel factor manual wins in my book .

Anyway thanks everybody for the replies and everything. I'm just happy I got this done now and not regretted it even more later! I was only down about ~2k I can barely believe that.
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Glad to hear you didn't take a huge financial burden on the trade-in!
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yeah! give the sales guy a break! food's goin' up
man likes to eat. don't f**k around with that,you WILL lose too much scratch
as others have said,and they are right!.you might try this!..everytime you drive it,
tell yourself,ya got a ''stick" by driving it in manual mode using shift lever.to be honest,in time it will just be an "event phsycological" and of little concern,because of the 'fun" nature of the car!
I tried that just for fun (haha) and it just made me want the real thing...
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Thanks for all the awesome answers, guys!

Anyway this topic is pretty much done because I went to Toyota Temecula and they traded in my argento auto fr-s for a new asphalt manual fr-s.

I love the color and I'm soo much more happy with the transmission now! Took me a while but I almost have it down smoothly going to go out again tomorrow/this weekend to perfect my smooth starts

And if anybody is on the fence this car just comes alive with the manual so much more than the auto! Its weird! If I ever drove the m/t before the auto I would've gotten the m/t for sure. Engine & exhaust sound much better and the shifter is phenomenal. And it definitely pulls better.

I still stick to my assessment that the auto is a great auto but I gotta say the manual adds so much more to the experience IMO. Auto is wonderful in that it lets you keep your hands on the wheel at all times (steering feel in this car is really great) and that it lets you cruise in town but for performance & just feel factor manual wins in my book .

Anyway thanks everybody for the replies and everything. I'm just happy I got this done now and not regretted it even more later! I was only down about ~2k I can barely believe that.
No way only about 2k? was your AT a lease or a payment?
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I tried that just for fun (haha) and it just made me want the real thing...
You just answered your own question. Go test drive a manual. It's what you truly want and if you settle for your automatic you'll be constantly wondering "what if."
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No way only about 2k? was your AT a lease or a payment?
About 2k more than I currently owe, not more than the total I paid for the car .

But yes I was satisfied with that being that I wanted the manual much more. All financed no lease.
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