Should I trade in/sell my car?

[Mr.Jay]

Wait until new model comes out in a ciuple years then tradein for new one with a stick

[EK_Golfer]

Like others have said, you need to find out if you can live with a MT for daily driving. I previously drove manual in the past but now I'm always in traffic twice a day weekdays and I knew I didn't want to deal with the third pedal. I know a few people deal with daily traffic in a MT, kudos to them, but a majority of people that tell me "you get used to traffic" they usually have a puny commute to work or are still in school and their idea of traffic is only once or twice a week.
So it comes down to you trying an MT, and what your daily weekday commute is. If my work commute was under 20mi or this was not my daily driver, I would definitely go MT.

[Sonolin]

Originally Posted by Obja

we have the EXACT same problem my friend, exact.

Have you inquired at the dealer of possibly trading in?

Just wondering, I'll be going down soon.

Originally Posted by EK_Golfer

Like others have said, you need to find out if you can live with a MT for daily driving. I previously drove manual in the past but now I'm always in traffic twice a day weekdays and I knew I didn't want to deal with the third pedal. I know a few people deal with daily traffic in a MT, kudos to them, but a majority of people that tell me "you get used to traffic" they usually have a puny commute to work or are still in school and their idea of traffic is only once or twice a week.
So it comes down to you trying an MT, and what your daily weekday commute is. If my work commute was under 20mi or this was not my daily driver, I would definitely go MT.

Thanks for the advice. I did choose the auto in the first place because of traffic (I hate traffic). But I've came to realize that was pretty silly. I bought this car to enjoy, and don't commute (I work from home). The rare times I'm stuck in stop and go is usually when we're taking a trip and its rarely for very long. I've also read this manual is buttery smooth & not rough at all in traffic, so I'm leaning a lot towards it. That said, an auto definitely has advantages over a M/T in this regard.

Anyway, thanks everyone for the advice my mind is pretty much made up as long as I can get a decent deal some way or another... It'll be a PITA all around, but worth it if I can finally seal the deal!

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by Whitigir

Do you know Paddle Shift was made for Racing ? Requires Little to no clutch maintenance, Keeping the Driver on balance, and easier access, and so much more Benefit.

BTW, do you know why GTR has no Manual Stick ? Because Paddle Shifting (computer) can shift much faster than a Person, and also more Efficient.

You're blurring the lines between an Automatic transmission with driver input ([ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_transmission"]Automatic transmission - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]) and something like a semi-automatic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-au...c_transmission) or dual-clutch ([ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_clutch_transmission"]Dual-clutch transmission - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]) transmission. The ToyoBaru has an Automatic, it's got a torque converter end of story. The high performance vehicles that are often brought into the A/T vs. M/T argument use one of the latter transmission types I mentioned; i.e. the Nissan GTR uses a dual-clutch, the new 911 GT3 will ONLY be available with a dual-clutch system. They both have clutches and are much closer to the traditional manual transmission than the automatic (or "manumatic") available in the 86.

As far as I know automatics are rarely used outside of drag racing (sticking to prestigious series such as F1, NASCAR, WRC, NHRA etc.) because there are inherent losses to the system (although minute) as well as a lack of control. In F1 they employ a sequential transmission ([ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sequential_manual_transmission"]Sequential manual transmission - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]) which I believe has been adopted into many series such as WRC, MotoGP, and Indy.

tl;dr comparing the transmission in your FRZ to that of a GTR is like comparing your FRZ to a boat because they both have steering wheels. Functionally they perform the same task but when you try to understand what's going on you better have the right manual or you're going to have a bad time.

[slowbrz]

Do what makes you happy. Keeping the auto will probably only make you stress about it more. We've all made financial mistakes. Some guy who bought an auto BRZ at my dealership returned it the same day i came in to put in a down payment. It will cost you money but give you a peace of mind (which is often times worth it).

Autos have their advantages but I find traffic hardly a problem with a manual. I drive in traffic M-F (some stop and go, some low speed although not that bad at all) about 30 miles each way and it has NEVER bothered me honestly. It's not traffic the entire way, just in some areas (about 15-60% of my drive is in some type of traffic) I guess the traffic I deal with is not as bad as some others here.

Id imagine I will have to be stuck in stop-and-go traffic at least 40 minutes a day for me to want an auto.

I really hope everything works out for you.

[Jeong]

i dont get why your so keen on trading for a manual when you said youve never driven a stick, let alone a manual fr-s. alot of people hate driving manuals hence all the automatic transmissions in cars. you might end up regretting trading for a manual later on. not really the best idea to trade and make a money dive on an idea that youve never experienced.

[Tucson FR-S]

If I were in your situation, I'd enjoy what I love about the car. I usually find buyer's remorse to be an unproductive compulsion because it makes you regret a good choice. In this case, a really great choice, an fr-s. You'll get to chose another car someday; meantime, feel the joy in the one you have.

(Oh, I hope that doesn't sound too much like Oprah.)

[LeeMaster]

If I were you, and I was not satisfied with the AT, I would sell the AT, buy a beater MT that will last you at least two years, then buy a manual FRS/BRZ in two years when they upgrade the engine and add some additional refinements to the chassis/suspension/body/links etc. You only have to wait one more year, why put more mileage on your AT if youre not satisfied with it?

[Enraged21]

I would hold onto it, until a refresh came out about ~4 years down the road.

[shawnperolis]

Why did you buy it with the auto if you wanted a manual anyways? You're not getting the full experience of the car with a slushbox, so might as well trade it in and get the one with the right transmission!

[p4png]

You want what you don't have. Lots of people say and think manual is cool, and it really is but it isn't for everyone. You should try driving the manual for a week somehow before making such a huge investment. I'm sure for less than your loss in this trade you could borrow a manual car. Being stuck with a manual is worse than an automatic

[forzajuve]

Originally Posted by Sonolin

Hey guys,

First of all, want to say I'm very happy I picked the Fr-s. I love this car and its great fun in the twisties.

The only problem I have is I bought the car as an auto. I did it mainly because the only fr-s I could find were all automatic cars, and having never driven a stick the thought of an auto sports car never killed me.

Now having driven it for ~6k miles, I really regret buying the auto. Its my fault, I know, and I should have never bought an auto in the first place. This auto is great, but it just doesn't fit what I want out of the car.

So my dillema, is should I make the bad financial decision, and sell my a/t fr-s and try to get a m/t? I would never do this if it put me in a financial spot where I'd be struggling to pay the bills or anything, but I just see it as bad financial sense all around. I'm also considering buying used m/t or possibly selling my a/t then waiting a bit to pick up a used m/t within the year at a possible lower price.

Idk. I'm just torn on it, and its slowly eating away at my soul . I know there's probably people who are satisfied with the a/t, but I don't commute at all (work from home) so it was a stupid choice for me...

I've looked into doing a possibly swap to a M/T trans later down the road, but the costs and difficulties sound too high. I do really like the idea of keeping my personal car, as I feel sentimental value towards it, but it'd probably be smarter to just trade it in. I've also thought of keeping the car for 2-3 years and trading it in then for a newer manual brz/fr-s, but that would just mean I'd be paying a lot more money all around.

Any suggestions? I'm not looking for you guys to make my life decisions for me, I guess I'm just asking what would you do in a similar spot (however stupid and unlikely)?

You already lost about $4,000 driving it off the lot due to depreciation. Are you financing it or did you make a full purchase?

[Re~Mix]

Life's too short to live with something you really don't want, and the right choice to make isn't an easy one necessarily.

Trying MT for a week (or even two) won't sell you. You have to get over that learning curve before it really becomes an enjoyable and rewarding experience.


FYI. I had absolutely zero experience driving stick while I was looking into purchasing the FR-S. After a few lessons in a friends car and at the recommendation of so many members of this forum I bought my FRS and essentially learned stick on it.

Absolutely ZERO regrets. Would I enjoy a paddle shifter GTR or 458, hell yes. But the FRS isn't a high HP monster.

[Obja]

[QUOTE=Sonolin;836699]Have you inquired at the dealer of possibly trading in?

Just wondering, I'll be going down soon.





They offered me a terrible price that i can't afford.