Got a ticket, legal advice?

[HunterGreene]

Originally Posted by forzajuve

He has your driver's license number and insurance, so either way it is logged. For something like "Fail to stop/yield at intersection" I believe (could be totally wrong) is to be considered the same as running a red light. However, you are in Washington so the law may be way different than here in California. If the situation was that you received a speeding ticket, technically that is an unconstitutional law and you can therefore fight that and win.

Originally Posted by forzajuve

I sense your sarcasm and lack of knowledge. It is OK, however, as long as you know how to read and do proper research you might be able to save yourself. And maybe once you get out of high school your mind may open up to new and better opportunities!

I have a long time friend, he is an engineer living in California, who has challenged TWO speeding tickets and due to its unconstitutionality his tickets were waived. No need to pay and nothing was on his record. It really comes down to whether or not you principally believe it is worth spending time on defending yourself.

Good luck!

Originally Posted by forzajuve

As I said previously, good luck!

Originally Posted by forzajuve

ib, you definitely need some luck, ha. If only you personally knew constitutional lawyers...or better yet read a little. Sad. Continue to remain ignorant though. Good luck!

Forza--I know you are trying to not rise to the bait, but at the same time, you make a pretty compelling claim there that would have some pretty far-reaching consequences if it would be proven and explained.

Calling someone "ignorant" without providing a single sentence of explanation, other than your "friend" has done it twice, is a weak attempt at justification at best.
@ib raised a legitimate question--Please, cite your source.

[TONY_BRZ]

I did this twice and got off with a warning on both occasions. Apologize and admit that you were wrong. That's about it

[gily25]

Check the contest/not guilty box, show up to court, most of these (especially first offenses) end up nollied out. If it were a speeding ticket you'd probably end up with a reduced fine for first time visit to court. Court isn't like on TV...you wait in a line and sit with a magistrate who will ask you some questions (did you take off work today, always answer YES), why do you think we should contest it (don't mention the data issue, just say you stopped but didn't fully apply the brake b/c you downshifted, so the brake lights probably weren't visible, then you made a cautioned turn). Wear slacks/khakis and a shirt with a collar to court.

[HunterGreene]

Originally Posted by gily25

Check the contest/not guilty box, show up to court, most of these (especially first offenses) end up nollied out. If it were a speeding ticket you'd probably end up with a reduced fine for first time visit to court. Court isn't like on TV...you wait in a line and sit with a magistrate who will ask you some questions (did you take off work today, always answer YES), why do you think we should contest it (don't mention the data issue, just say you stopped but didn't fully apply the brake b/c you downshifted, so the brake lights probably weren't visible, then you made a cautioned turn). Wear slacks/khakis and a shirt with a collar to court.

Just to go slightly off-topic, it amazes me how completely stupid people can be about dressing in court. I've heard stories about how someone showed up to court in ripped-up jeans and a hoodie, and had a speeding ticket turned into a week long jail sentence because he didn't show any respect to the court and looked like a hoodlum.

[SpeedR]

pay ticket. the end.

[driftartist]

wow seriously? the scion is under the toyota corporation. jesus christ /smmfh

[forzajuve]

Haha for sure, man. I did and it is the u.s. constitution

[HunterGreene]

Originally Posted by forzajuve

Haha for sure, man. I did and it is the u.s. constitution

Great, you just did the equivalent of flashing a textbook at us. Please do some work and cite the specific section and paragraph. Sentence, if you are feeling particularly motivated. Though part of me doubts you will bother.

I'm waiting...

[forzajuve]

I have a way better idea. Do some work for yourself. If you are so interested, go and figure it out on your own I have done so and I am thoroughly convinced, why? because I did proper research, consulted with the right people and came to my own conclusion of the actual truth. Writing it out will not do justice, that is why I consulted with attorneys face to face. I simply made a side note and planted a seed.

I must have made an impression on you, however, so I appreciate the flattery. If you are feeling particularly motivated to enlighten yourself you should DEFINITELY do so, on your own. Though part of me doubt you will bother...

I am happy I was able to influence you and spark such an interest!

But I am not waiting because I am already ahead...

peace & love.

[jmaryt]

Originally Posted by MissDeb

I have a similar situation that I look forward to resolving.

The police officer wrote my wrong birthday AND year model of my car on the ticket. He could not **see** the correct information that is printed on my drivers license and insurance ID car but he could **see** me do a traffic infraction?

Seems to me he has eyesight problems.

he just made an "honest mistake" transferring the info to the ticket.
he still did see the infraction unfortunately,and he's prepared to testify to that fact. pay the ticket! you did the deed!

[shawnperolis]

This is the most ridiculous thread ever. It's a minor violation, pay the goddamn ticket. Citing the Constitution to fight a traffic citation is one of the craziest things I've ever heard.

[aceangel]

I just found this website: https://www.ticketsbite.com. The idea is so intriguing that I might just sign up for this. If I had known earlier, I wouldn't have had mounted my front plates.

[Calidrifter]

^^ won't work with vehicle code violations.

Plus I'm not paying a premium on top of my insurance premium when all I have to do is be a better driver.

Regarding the speeding is unconstitutional thing:

I'm guessing this has to do with the whole not all speed limit signs are legal thing I heard a few years ago.

To the OP:

Just pay the ticket.

[Mikem53]

I don't think the info on the ticket regarding the make/model is going to affect anything.. It's close enough...
You failed to stop, and got caught... It happens.. Pay the fine and move on...
If someone slammed into you for not stopping at a stop sign... You would think differently about things... I hate getting tickets.. I have had my fair share.. Each one was well deserved...
Good luck..

Originally Posted by Timtamtt

Reason: Fail to stop/yield at intersection

Story: headed home from work at about midnight. Was three minutes away from home, just got off the freeway. Did a california stop at a three way intersection. Got pulled over got the ticket.

Question: on the ticket, it says "MAKE: TOYOTA. MODEL:SCIONFRS". Last I checked there is no such car as a Toyota Scionfrs. Does this make the information on the ticket incorrect, therefore invalid?

Thanks,

Tim