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Turbowned · 03-31-2013, 04:52 PM

The FA20 is a beefy motor. If you're not shooting for more than 350hp and not planning on endurance racing the thing, I wouldn't bother with more than a new OEM short block. This isn't the engine's fault; this is the fault of improper installation.

Frs300 · 03-31-2013, 05:09 PM

Tansey i had already asked about that before it even blew up

GNS · 03-31-2013, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frs300

ya i ment bov sorry. im at work doing 100 things at once.

i was going to install my gauge pod that night. this dealership has done turbo/sc on trucks quite a bit. i should have drove to mn and had fullblown install it.

FullBlown you guys have the heads ready yet? i may need some lol

May I ask how much you saved by getting Toyota to install the kit vs driving out to get the vendor to install it for you?

Frs300 · 03-31-2013, 05:26 PM

im in florida fullblown is in minnesota. so that was out of the question. looking back i should have went that route. would have spent a bit more money but my car would still be running. im sure they would have hooked me up on install with all the parts i purchased from them

cost of install
hotel
gas
food

bakerr6 · 03-31-2013, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frs300

im in florida fullblown is in minnesota. so that was out of the question. looking back i should have went that route. would have spent a bit more money but my car would still be running. im sure they would have hooked me up on install with all the parts i purchased from them

cost of install
hotel
gas
food

You would have saved on shipping haha

Sportsguy83 · 03-31-2013, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GNS

May I ask how much you saved by getting Toyota to install the kit vs driving out to get the vendor to install it for you?

Yeah, no point in keeping rehashing what could have been...

SubieNate · 03-31-2013, 05:58 PM

How are you finding 96 octane in the Bay Area?

@OP-Sorry for your loss. And not to kick you while you're down or anything, but I will say that spinning the tires in first and hitting 6000 rpm in second doesn't seem like "normal driving" to me, especially on a not fully setup or tested brand new turbo setup. I know the pull of boost and the excitement of your new setup is hard to resist, but I think this could have been avoided if you had waited to beat on the thing until you had all your sensors etc. setup and working. Heck, I wouldn't tune a factory turbo car much past stock without a wideband and some way to monitor the boost, much less a full aftermarket setup.

Nathan

Frs300 · 03-31-2013, 06:13 PM

yes ill admit if i had a wideband and or boost gauge installed it might have been preventable. Still doesnt excuse the fact something was more than likely installed wrong

Silverdub · 03-31-2013, 06:55 PM

@Frs300 out of curiosity, did your engine have any weird noise when you started it? my engine has a weird sound in that exact area where your hole is since i installed my turbo kit. at first, i thought it was my turbo that was dry and missing oil, after many checks and stuff its getting its oil but the weird noise is still there. i removed my serpentine belt and checked all my pulleys for a bad bearing and the alternator as well but all is fine. i started the motor again and it still sounds weird. i dont know if you are getting your oil feed from the same location as me and if your turbo uses an oil restrictor but mine doesnt. i am starting to wonder if its not a lack of oil in that area in the motor caused by the turbo oil feed.

i simply turned my car off and i am debating removing my whole turbo kit and going back to stock just to start the motor again so that i can compare the noise with or without the kit.

Frs300 · 03-31-2013, 07:01 PM

no weird noise that i could hear...just bov opening and closing at idle

Silverdub · 03-31-2013, 07:04 PM

maybe im just being paranoid since i built everything myself and its a brand new car...

86pro · 03-31-2013, 07:05 PM

I agree, i think your fuel pump wasn't properly installed. Hence why you werent getting the right power and putting strain on engine. It was only a matter of time. Next time park it up until you sort it out. Sorry to hear that you blew your engine and look at it in a good way, when you build back up go all out.

Frs300 · 03-31-2013, 07:13 PM

should get this

http://store.crawfordperformance.com/store/products/654

Silverdub · 03-31-2013, 07:14 PM

no heads though.... hope yours are still good! if they are just do it!!

03-31-2013, 06:55 PM	#79
Silverdub Boostin' Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: FRS-T Location: Montreal Posts: 1,042 Thanks: 337 Thanked 489 Times in 241 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	@Frs300 out of curiosity, did your engine have any weird noise when you started it? my engine has a weird sound in that exact area where your hole is since i installed my turbo kit. at first, i thought it was my turbo that was dry and missing oil, after many checks and stuff its getting its oil but the weird noise is still there. i removed my serpentine belt and checked all my pulleys for a bad bearing and the alternator as well but all is fine. i started the motor again and it still sounds weird. i dont know if you are getting your oil feed from the same location as me and if your turbo uses an oil restrictor but mine doesnt. i am starting to wonder if its not a lack of oil in that area in the motor caused by the turbo oil feed. i simply turned my car off and i am debating removing my whole turbo kit and going back to stock just to start the motor again so that i can compare the noise with or without the kit. __________________ My custom turbo build up thread!

03-31-2013, 07:04 PM	#81
Silverdub Boostin' Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: FRS-T Location: Montreal Posts: 1,042 Thanks: 337 Thanked 489 Times in 241 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	maybe im just being paranoid since i built everything myself and its a brand new car... __________________ My custom turbo build up thread!

03-31-2013, 07:14 PM	#84
Silverdub Boostin' Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: FRS-T Location: Montreal Posts: 1,042 Thanks: 337 Thanked 489 Times in 241 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	no heads though.... hope yours are still good! if they are just do it!! __________________ My custom turbo build up thread!

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03-31-2013, 05:09 PM	#72
Frs300 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: Pile of junk Location: florida Posts: 1,190 Thanks: 264 Thanked 968 Times in 413 Posts Mentioned: 232 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Tansey i had already asked about that before it even blew up

03-31-2013, 05:26 PM	#74
Frs300 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: Pile of junk Location: florida Posts: 1,190 Thanks: 264 Thanked 968 Times in 413 Posts Mentioned: 232 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	im in florida fullblown is in minnesota. so that was out of the question. looking back i should have went that route. would have spent a bit more money but my car would still be running. im sure they would have hooked me up on install with all the parts i purchased from them cost of install hotel gas food

03-31-2013, 05:58 PM	#77
SubieNate Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 2013 FR-S Ultramarine Location: Temecula, CA Posts: 959 Thanks: 288 Thanked 560 Times in 269 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	How are you finding 96 octane in the Bay Area? @OP-Sorry for your loss. And not to kick you while you're down or anything, but I will say that spinning the tires in first and hitting 6000 rpm in second doesn't seem like "normal driving" to me, especially on a not fully setup or tested brand new turbo setup. I know the pull of boost and the excitement of your new setup is hard to resist, but I think this could have been avoided if you had waited to beat on the thing until you had all your sensors etc. setup and working. Heck, I wouldn't tune a factory turbo car much past stock without a wideband and some way to monitor the boost, much less a full aftermarket setup. Nathan

03-31-2013, 06:13 PM	#78
Frs300 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: Pile of junk Location: florida Posts: 1,190 Thanks: 264 Thanked 968 Times in 413 Posts Mentioned: 232 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	yes ill admit if i had a wideband and or boost gauge installed it might have been preventable. Still doesnt excuse the fact something was more than likely installed wrong

03-31-2013, 07:01 PM	#80
Frs300 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: Pile of junk Location: florida Posts: 1,190 Thanks: 264 Thanked 968 Times in 413 Posts Mentioned: 232 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	no weird noise that i could hear...just bov opening and closing at idle

03-31-2013, 07:05 PM	#82
86pro Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: frs Location: tdot Posts: 149 Thanks: 13 Thanked 22 Times in 19 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I agree, i think your fuel pump wasn't properly installed. Hence why you werent getting the right power and putting strain on engine. It was only a matter of time. Next time park it up until you sort it out. Sorry to hear that you blew your engine and look at it in a good way, when you build back up go all out.

03-31-2013, 07:13 PM	#83
Frs300 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: Pile of junk Location: florida Posts: 1,190 Thanks: 264 Thanked 968 Times in 413 Posts Mentioned: 232 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	should get this http://store.crawfordperformance.com/store/products/654

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