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Old 01-20-2012, 02:07 PM   #71
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still no pics with humans in the back, come on!
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Old 01-26-2012, 12:32 PM   #72
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Here are a couple pictures from the back of the BRZ at the Detroit Auto Show. I was there on Press Day and was able to get in the car.

I'm 5'9" on a good day and, while the driving position was very good and the shifter was phenomenal (similar direct feel of an Aisin transmission as Miata / RX-8 / S2000), I was disappointed in the lack of rear seat room. I wasn't expecting a whole lot, but I was spoiled by the RX-8 I used to have, which had a very usable and comfortable rear seat - for a sports coupe.

I set the driver's seat where I would drive. Admittedly, I always set my seats in their LOWEST vertical position. When I got in the rear seat behind myself, I had to wedge my feed down between the f/r seats and then wedge them under the front seat. I got back there, but it wasn't pretty. The front seat can go back as far as touching the rear seat.

I'm sure I could've pulled the seat forward and upward a bit to make more room in that rare instance when I need to put someone in the back. It'll do.
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Here are a couple pictures from the back of the BRZ at the Detroit Auto Show. I was there on Press Day and was able to get in the car.

I'm 5'9" on a good day and, while the driving position was very good and the shifter was phenomenal (similar direct feel of an Aisin transmission as Miata / RX-8 / S2000), I was disappointed in the lack of rear seat room. I wasn't expecting a whole lot, but I was spoiled by the RX-8 I used to have, which had a very usable and comfortable rear seat - for a sports coupe.

I set the driver's seat where I would drive. Admittedly, I always set my seats in their LOWEST vertical position. When I got in the rear seat behind myself, I had to wedge my feed down between the f/r seats and then wedge them under the front seat. I got back there, but it wasn't pretty. The front seat can go back as far as touching the rear seat.

I'm sure I could've pulled the seat forward and upward a bit to make more room in that rare instance when I need to put someone in the back. It'll do.
Typically for a 2 door coupe the front seats have a handle that allows you to move the seat forward for passengers at the rear to get in. Once they are settled, you can then move the seat back to its original location. Based on your description, I wonder if the same system is applied for the seats for FR-S.

It seems that this system is *not* used. If that is the case, it is very difficult for people to get into the rear seats...

However, thanks for trying to show this.
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Thanks for the pictures.

Is it me, or does the stitching in those seats look awful?
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The red stitching seems fine and the black stitching looks to be getting a reflection from the lights. It's probably fine.
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Well, thank you and finally some rear seat pic with someone sitting in them. I doubt I'll carry anyone back their anyways.
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Typically for a 2 door coupe the front seats have a handle that allows you to move the seat forward for passengers at the rear to get in. Once they are settled, you can then move the seat back to its original location. Based on your description, I wonder if the same system is applied for the seats for FR-S.

It seems that this system is *not* used. If that is the case, it is very difficult for people to get into the rear seats...

However, thanks for trying to show this.
I'm sure the passenger seat employs this feature. Usually the driver's seat will tilt, but not slide, as that sudden movement could jam the driver's feet against unwanted pedals or make them mistakenly pull their foot off the brake. Any host of unintended inputs could result and are not worth the risk.

As for carrying people in back, do we really want to add that much weight to such a light car?! It's best to carry one person at a time, and get them to the destination as quickly as possible, then return for each additional person individually. If there's noticeably less tread left on the tires when you're done, then you know that you've done a good job
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I'm sure the passenger seat employs this feature. Usually the driver's seat will tilt, but not slide, as that sudden movement could jam the driver's feet against unwanted pedals or make them mistakenly pull their foot off the brake. Any host of unintended inputs could result and are not worth the risk.

As for carrying people in back, do we really want to add that much weight to such a light car?! It's best to carry one person at a time, and get them to the destination as quickly as possible, then return for each additional person individually. If there's noticeably less tread left on the tires when you're done, then you know that you've done a good job
The issue with two door coupe is that when one in the rear seat needs to get out, whether the front passenger or the driver need to get out first and tilt/slide the seat for the ones in the back to get out. That is the pain for 2 door coupe compared with 4 door sedan.

I would be surprised if Toyota/Subaru do not employ such a system in FR-S/BRZ.

Since this car is dubbed as 2+2, there could be situations where carrying 4 people is required. So for folks < 6' this is a possibility. I understand for some people that it is better to treat this car as a 2 seater, but other people have their requirements as well.
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