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Fizz · 03-15-2013, 06:59 AM

Interesting that he said they had the convertible in mind right from the beginning, bcoz I thought I read elsewhere that they weren't going to do convertible and AWD when they were designing/engineering this car in the early days. Maybe I read wrongly....

johnnie · 03-15-2013, 07:19 AM

So i guess BMW wants at either one of these:
- Toyota's hybrid/plugin tech for i3/i8.
- GT86 platform for a new Z2 roadster (below the Z4) or for a Triumph brand revival.

And Toyota wants BMW carbon fiber chassis know-how.

brufleth · 03-15-2013, 07:50 AM

Looks like the BMW 1 series three door.

http://www.bmw.com/com/en/newvehicle...oom/index.html

I was just on vacation in London and Paris and the three door and five door 1 series was everywhere. My wife totally wants the five door and I support her in that.

SnapOv3st3r · 03-15-2013, 02:16 PM

T-Top...would LOVE to have that.

Allch Chcar · 03-15-2013, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giccin

I'm still waiting for a Hatch.

I'm also still eyeing the Subaru Impreza WRX. lol

I couldn't even consider it. Twice the insurance and absolute crap gas mileage. On premium gas too! One or the other I could take, but not both.

Although, I don't want/need AWD so your mileage may vary. I'm positive about a sedan at least, but a hatchback would be stellar.

ZetaVI · 03-15-2013, 06:34 PM

Gotta love his interviews. Always interesting what he says.

Nezz · 03-15-2013, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZDan

I'm all for a big family of FT86-based cars.
Coupe (which we already have)
3-door hatch
4-door sedan
5-door hatch

And (tum-tum-tum):
A 2-seater, on the same wheelbase as FR-S/BRZ but with engine/firewall/windshield/front-seaters moved aft about 2 ft. for 50/50 or better weight distribution. Add funky styling: instant modern 2000GT!

No sedans! No sedans ever! And no five door hatches! Three door hatch, two door coupe. ... and please don't make the Shooting Brake, Toyota, Or I'll buy it. I'll buy two. PLEASE DON'T.

bcj · 03-16-2013, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nezz

... and please don't make the Shooting Brake, Toyota, Or I'll buy it. I'll buy two. PLEASE DON'T.

+ pi

Giccin · 03-16-2013, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allch Chcar

I couldn't even consider it. Twice the insurance and absolute crap gas mileage. On premium gas too! One or the other I could take, but not both.

Although, I don't want/need AWD so your mileage may vary. I'm positive about a sedan at least, but a hatchback would be stellar.

I wouldn't mind. Lol

Once I make the munies I shouldn't be to worried. :P

Spend it right and there won't be too many money problems.

Allch Chcar · 03-16-2013, 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcj

+ pi

Now now, let's be rational about this!

JackSmiley · 03-16-2013, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exhaust

All this time german engineering has been on top followed by Japanese engineering. Now for these two to come together? Thats crazy.

A fun to drive over engineered car?

ZDan · 03-16-2013, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nezz

No sedans! No sedans ever! And no five door hatches!

You don't want them, so they shouldn't exist at all? Why not?

5-door hatch would allow us to replace wife's Mazda3 with a super-cool low-slung rwd car. That would be FANTASTIC! No one has offered this kind of car in the US since, what, the Datsun 510? Having 4-door and 5-door versions of that car did nothing to diminish its legendary status, btw...

FRSupra · 03-16-2013, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnie

So i guess BMW wants at either one of these:
- Toyota's hybrid/plugin tech for i3/i8.
- GT86 platform for a new Z2 roadster (below the Z4) or for a Triumph brand revival.

And Toyota wants BMW carbon fiber chassis know-how.

Toyota has the best CFRP development in existence right now. For the LFA, they actually bought other manufactures CF technology and ended up scrapping it all to create their own because they felt it did not meet their standards.

And as I've said many times before, the Targa would be my only consideration to part with my my FR-S.

russv · 03-16-2013, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exhaust

All this time german engineering has been on top followed by Japanese engineering. Now for these two to come together? Thats crazy.

No German electronics or fuel pumps please!

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03-15-2013, 06:59 AM	#71
Fizz Senior Addict Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: 86 GT Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 1,217 Thanks: 249 Thanked 336 Times in 215 Posts Mentioned: 12 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Interesting that he said they had the convertible in mind right from the beginning, bcoz I thought I read elsewhere that they weren't going to do convertible and AWD when they were designing/engineering this car in the early days. Maybe I read wrongly....

03-15-2013, 07:19 AM	#72
johnnie Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: GT86 Location: Europe Posts: 90 Thanks: 25 Thanked 32 Times in 19 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So i guess BMW wants at either one of these: - Toyota's hybrid/plugin tech for i3/i8. - GT86 platform for a new Z2 roadster (below the Z4) or for a Triumph brand revival. And Toyota wants BMW carbon fiber chassis know-how.

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brufleth Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: 2007 WRX Location: Chelsea, MA Posts: 113 Thanks: 14 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Looks like the BMW 1 series three door. http://www.bmw.com/com/en/newvehicle...oom/index.html I was just on vacation in London and Paris and the three door and five door 1 series was everywhere. My wife totally wants the five door and I support her in that.

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SnapOv3st3r Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 400whp Scion tC Location: TN Posts: 1,310 Thanks: 676 Thanked 323 Times in 213 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	T-Top...would LOVE to have that.

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ZetaVI Gundam Meister Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: A Gundam Location: Westchester County, NY Posts: 2,685 Thanks: 320 Thanked 1,010 Times in 510 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Gotta love his interviews. Always interesting what he says.

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