Tada talks FT86 Convertible, BMW, dogs, beer, and spawning multiple 86 models

[OrbitalEllipses]

I hope it doesn't become like the MINI family of cars. Ever.

[ZDan]

I'm all for a big family of FT86-based cars.
Coupe (which we already have)
3-door hatch
4-door sedan
5-door hatch

And (tum-tum-tum):
A 2-seater, on the same wheelbase as FR-S/BRZ but with engine/firewall/windshield/front-seaters moved aft about 2 ft. for 50/50 or better weight distribution. Add funky styling: instant modern 2000GT!

[Zaku]

There is one issue with all of this happening and thats will America get them? Since Scion is mono spec, unless they bring them and keep changing the names and other things. It's kinda doesn't work with their brand, unless they one, come out as Subaru or come up with a whole new division like mini is to BMW or actually release them as Toyota, change Scion. Or just get rid of Scion.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by Zaku

There is one issue with all of this happening and thats will America get them? Since Scion is mono spec, unless they bring them and keep changing the names and other things. It's kinda doesn't work with their brand, unless they one, come out as Subaru or come up with a whole new division like mini is to BMW or actually release them as Toyota, change Scion. Or just get rid of Scion.

Well, there's always first to everything. name "FR-S" is a first Scion that has more than 2 letters. Don't you remember when we had a thread debating what 2 letters they gonna be using for FR-S? & some member get really pissed saying it's not coming out on Scion?

Ah~ good old time LMAO

[wbradley]

I'd say making a family of cars based on the 86 might seem overly optimistic. However, it could spawn some very interesting variants.

Never heard the term shooting brake before, though it seems like it's another Brit word for 5 door wagon.

[ahausheer]

As far as Scion is concerned, their sales numbers suggest they need to completely change their current offerings for the brand to survive. It would be awesome if Scion consisted solely of an 86 family of cars like the Prius sub-brand.

I could see the 86 coupe and convertible, an 86 based 3 and 5 door hatch/shooting brake (Golf/GTI competitor) and a sedan on a longer wheel base (Si competitor).

Scion needs to steal market share from the Miata, and the performance hatch market. Those markets are ripe for change as Americans switch to smaller and smaller cars and people continue to want small affordable fun cars. The Miata is unchallenged and the GTI is front wheel drive. Scion could take over those markets with superior products.

I personally would buy the hatchback over all other cars if its ever offered.

[ahausheer]

Originally Posted by wbradley

I'd say making a family of cars based on the 86 might seem overly optimistic. However, it could spawn some very interesting variants.

Never heard the term shooting brake before, though it seems like it's another Brit word for 5 door wagon.

Shooting Brake is a fancy (and stupid) marketing term resurrected from the dead by German automakers who wanted to introduce a wagon to America without the lameness of the ''Wagon'' label. Its interchangeable with a 3 door hatch, and if your really snoody, a 5 door hatch or wagon. Closest offering to a true shooting brake is the Volvo C30. I dislike the term, almost as much as I dislike ''4 door coupe''

[danielv]

I would love to have a hatchback version

[Zaku]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Well, there's always first to everything. name "FR-S" is a first Scion that has more than 2 letters. Don't you remember when we had a thread debating what 2 letters they gonna be using for FR-S? & some member get really pissed saying it's not coming out on Scion?

Ah~ good old time LMAO

yeah.... and us getting yelled at by the Subaru Fanbois that Subaru would never make anything that's not 4WD, oh how I don't miss 2007 LOL But yeah I can see it happening as most SCION models are becoming outdated fast, with the exception of the TC getting a revamp to help attract buyers who are going for something cheaper than the FRS or just want something other than the Civic SI I don't see a replacement for the old X models. And the IQ is the IQ. @ichitaka05 you're making it worst for my purchase decision to wait or not! I be one happy person if I see a Shooting brake prototype soon and a good one.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by Zaku

yeah.... and us getting yelled at by the Subaru Fanbois that Subaru would never make anything that's not 4WD, oh how I don't miss 2007 LOL But yeah I can see it happening as most SCION models are becoming outdated fast, with the exception of the TC getting a revamp to help attract buyers who are going for something cheaper than the FRS or just want something other than the Civic SI I don't see a replacement for the old X models. And the IQ is the IQ. @ichitaka05 you're making it worst for my purchase decision to wait or not! I be one happy person if I see a Shooting brake prototype soon and a good one.

You can always trade it in

[Endless Mike]

Originally Posted by ahausheer

Shooting Brake is a fancy (and stupid) marketing term resurrected from the dead by German automakers who wanted to introduce a wagon to America without the lameness of the ''Wagon'' label. Its interchangeable with a 3 door hatch, and if your really snoody, a 5 door hatch or wagon. Closest offering to a true shooting brake is the Volvo C30. I dislike the term, almost as much as I dislike ''4 door coupe''

Mini Clubmen are arguably shooting brakes, as well. (Although they have an extra door on one side.)

[Giccin]

I'm still waiting for a Hatch.

I'm also still eyeing the Subaru Impreza WRX. lol

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by Giccin

I'm still waiting for a Hatch.

I'm also still eyeing the Subaru Impreza WRX. lol

Coupe ver or sedan wrx?

[Zaku]

Well I'm not gonna argue that a shooting brake design is not as functional as a normal regular hatch, but still that extra space can do wonders.