Subaru BRZ Black Edition Concept to Debut at 2012 TAS. BRZ GT300 Race Plans.

[2fast4you]

Originally Posted by Zgrinch

I think it says a lot about both companies and how they view the US consumer. Is our money not good enough for them?

A majority of Americans want vehicles closer to the 4,000 lbs mark than 2,000, and the #1 motorsport here is NASCAR... what kind of message do you think that sends to manufacturers?

[WingsofWar]

it means the brz is unamerican and supports terrorism

[ayau]

Originally Posted by Zgrinch

+1.

If both the STI and Black versions do not come stateside and the FRS does not get the the full GT-86 treatment, I think it says a lot about both companies and how they view the US consumer. Is our money not good enough for them?

Cars in the US are generally cheaper. Toyota and Subaru have to price it competively in the states. If they can't do that, then there's no point in bringing it over. They will lose money and no business would be willing to do that.

It's the main reason why the Scion is coming over as a low-spec version because not a lot of people will pay 28k+ for this type of car. It's the reason why Honda does'nt bring the Type-R versions of their cars (with th exception of the Acura Integra Type-R). It wouldn't surprise me one bit if Toyota and Subaru do the same.

[RRnold]

mmm Black Edition!!





Thanks for posting Hachi! :happy0180:

[JDLM]

fwiw: Ford has a black version of certain cars as well ha ha

[Zgrinch]

Originally Posted by WingsofWar

it means the brz is unamerican and supports terrorism

my sides hurt after this comment....How did you get so smart

I do understand the whole price point issue, but they could consider offering these types of versions in limited production and at a premium, so the people who are willing to pay have an opportunity to get one.

Rant over... Stand down the drone attack.

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by Zgrinch

my sides hurt after this comment....How did you get so smart

I do understand the whole price point issue, but they could consider offering these types of versions in limited production and at a premium, so the people who are willing to pay have an opportunity to get one.

Rant over... Stand down the drone attack.

I believe it is expensive for a company to bring a car like this over to USDM due to cost of getting it certified for emissions and crash safety. I have not clue on the actual costs, but for a special version of a limited production niche car it might not be feasible. Partly the reason Subaru still has not brought over their diesel boxer engines.

[Zgrinch]

Originally Posted by ayau

It's the main reason why the Scion is coming over as a low-spec version because not a lot of people will pay 28k+ for this type of car.

Ok, I agree with most of the responses to my original post, but this point makes no sense, since the BRZ appears to be coming in a Hi Spec version (limited).
Subaru would not do that from a business perspective unless they thought they could move some inventory.

Scion is potentially not offering Hi-spec because of their target market, not because people are not willing to pay. Maybe they will change their image and deliver both low and Hi spec. - jury is still out at this point.

[The Dude]

Originally Posted by JDLM

fwiw: Ford has a black version of certain cars as well ha ha

Porsche has them too http://www.porsche.com/microsite/black-edition/usa.aspx

[chulooz]

And mercedes of course. Mmmm C63 AMG Black.

[WingsofWar]

Nissan GTR has a niii....ehh..i mean black edition

[Guff]

Originally Posted by WingsofWar

Nissan GTR has a niii....ehh..i mean black edition

[Ribface]

Originally Posted by Hachiroku

Subaru will also be using the 2012 TAS to formally announce the BRZ GT3000's entry into next year's Super GT race series, Intercontinental Rally Challenge (IRC) and the Nurburgring 24 Hour race.

Hum this might not be entirely accurate

from the press release:

【Motor Sport information】
・Other displayed racing cars: Legacy B4 GT300 (participated in the 2011 Super GT race); BRZ GT300 (scheduled participation in the 2012 Super GT race); Impreza WRX STI (scheduled participation in the 2012 24 Hours Nürburgring endurance race); and Impreza WRX STI Group R4 specification model.
・Subaru will announce its entries of the Super GT races, Intercontinental Rally Challenge (IRC) and 24 Hours Nürburgring endurance race in 2012.

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/12/27/s...y-return-at-t/

It's the Impreza WRX STI that is scheduled to participate in the 2012 24 Hours Nürburgring endurance race not the BRZ GT300.
It's not clear in the release which car would take part in the IRC but I would expect it to be an Impreza not a BRZ.

[Guff]

Originally Posted by Slide

Will that fit my 86!! :P

I def want steering wheel controls for the 86!!! TRD I hope your listening!

Oddly enough, the Scion tC wheel looks EXACTLY like that, just sans Alacantara, and different button placement.