Dealer refusing to disable DRL's?

[root]

I make fair amount of use of handbrake on hills and people wonder why I'm flashing my lights at them

[SubieNate]

I guess I don't find a dim light where the highbeams are ugly, especially when I never see it unless I'm parking in front of a plate glass window...

I also don't care if people wonder about the lights at intersections on hills. They can deal haha. Although, I rarely if ever actually use the handbrake for hill starts.

Nathan

[Rayme]

As a driver..and mostly motorcyclist I love DRL. They have been standard here in Canada for well over 10 years and you can clearly see cars coming at you from far far away. There's always that idiot that forget to put on it's headlights in the evening - kind of keep you safe from other idiots and it's much easier to spot cars when you need to pass on a 2 lane... I guess most people that think DRL are disruptive must be the younger guys...so sensible to how you look eh? LOL

Ugly? I don't know what's so ugly about them.

[finch1750]

Originally Posted by fledonfoot

They don't HAVE to do anything, and if the vin is outside of the first 1500 or so cars (can't remember the exact number) it doesn't even apply.

TSB's are just the most common fix(es) to common customer presented issues to aid the techs in their diagnostic steps, and how (or even if) it is covered by any particular warranty. They are not recalls, and just because a TSB exists does not mean it applies to every single car.

The prime example is taillight condensation. You can wave that TSB in my face all day long. If the car doesn't have leaky tails, I can't replace them per the guidelines.


On reflection, this post came out a bit snarky and condescending. I don't mean for it to come out that way, sorry.

True. But what it should tell them is that it is OK in fact to turn them off, since there is a tab regarding an issue with disabling them (whet here his car falls under the tab doesn't really matter)

[Synack]

Originally Posted by ottopilot

As a driver..and mostly motorcyclist I love DRL. They have been standard here in Canada for well over 10 years and you can clearly see cars coming at you from far far away. There's always that idiot that forget to put on it's headlights in the evening - kind of keep you safe from other idiots and it's much easier to spot cars when you need to pass on a 2 lane... I guess most people that think DRL are disruptive must be the younger guys...so sensible to how you look eh? LOL

Ugly? I don't know what's so ugly about them.

I just prefer my lights on at night and off during the day. I'm not one of the idiots that ever forgets to turn them on so there's no issues there.

I just don't like the look off lights on during the day.

[zooki]

Originally Posted by Khyron686

This. Never understood why people find a safety feature so offensive. I wonder if Audi owners post how to disable the led strips...?

Kinda off topic, but it they had install LED strips on these cars I would have figured out a way to turn those off. I think they are the WAY uglier than DRL's....but that's my opinion. (:
Oh, and my dealer turned off my DRL's no problem.

[marky]

Originally Posted by ottopilot

As a driver..and mostly motorcyclist I love DRL. They have been standard here in Canada for well over 10 years and you can clearly see cars coming at you from far far away. There's always that idiot that forget to put on it's headlights in the evening - kind of keep you safe from other idiots and it's much easier to spot cars when you need to pass on a 2 lane... I guess most people that think DRL are disruptive must be the younger guys...so sensible to how you look eh? LOL

Ugly? I don't know what's so ugly about them.

exactly i was driving the other day and i was going to make a left turn while i was in the center lane and saw a motorcycle with his DRL bit far but i waited for him to pass couldnt really see if he didnt have his DRL on.. he gave me a ... plus i didnt want to pull in and cut him off or i would of got my front bumper all jacked up from the curb bottoming out..

just not digging the yellow pee color on my DRL need to change it asap... plus my car is white peral that you can see in daylight

[Cade01]

Originally Posted by marky

i was driving the other day and i was going to make a left turn while i was in the center lane and saw a motorcycle with his DRL bit far but i waited for him to pass couldnt really see if he didnt have his DRL on..

Kudos! Motor cycles are usually way closer than they look, its an optical illusion that gets a lot of people hurt.

I don't like DRLs because they were originally made for motorcycles only to make them more visible. Now that most cars come with them from the factory it really makes the MCs stand out way less. I guess that's why I don't like them, and I always turn my headlights on if it gets cloudy even, don't want them on when it's sunny.

[fistpoint]

Originally Posted by Shagaliscious

Take that idiot and sit him in a brand new Camry, and point out the "DRL OFF" on the headlight switch.

No shit? That is an excellent piece of evidence, thanks.

Originally Posted by Khyron686

This. Never understood why people find a safety feature so offensive. I wonder if Audi owners post how to disable the led strips...?

When you enter your vehicle do the wipers start wiping the window? Does your A/C automatically start up even though you know you aren't going to use it? Is your radio always on by default?

Some of us just prefer to be the "master of our domain". We don't need electronics telling us when to do things.

TPMS sensors too, just another feature for the 21st century brainless people we are breeding en masse. What's next, windshield washer low light? Just fill the damn thing with regular water when you are checking your tires that you had no clue were low because of the lack of a TPMS.

More shit to break, more shit to fix.

[zooki]

Originally Posted by fistpoint

What's next, windshield washer low light?

Sadly, my Mini Cooper had this.

[BlaineWasHere]

I just put yellow bulbs in mine. I wanted to retain the DRLs for safety, but get some style! Anything that helps protect my FR-S from idiot motorists is a good thing!!!

[automatic]

DRL's = Make vehicles more visible = I like

Being visible and aware of your surroundings is one of my top priorities in road safety as I ride a motorcycle as well.

In Ontario, nearly all cars have DRL's, when I drive in the states, I find it a bit more difficult to judge the speed of a car or determine if the car is moving if there is a car in the distance on a side street.

If you're making a quick glance to check if the road is clear, your brain will register the existence of a car with DRL's on faster than one without.

Also, crown vics are way easier to spot with DRL's

[mush]

Originally Posted by fistpoint

No shit? That is an excellent piece of evidence, thanks.




When you enter your vehicle do the wipers start wiping the window? Does your A/C automatically start up even though you know you aren't going to use it? Is your radio always on by default?

Some of us just prefer to be the "master of our domain". We don't need electronics telling us when to do things.

TPMS sensors too, just another feature for the 21st century brainless people we are breeding en masse. What's next, windshield washer low light? Just fill the damn thing with regular water when you are checking your tires that you had no clue were low because of the lack of a TPMS.

More shit to break, more shit to fix.

U know what? My car can actually do all that. It has auto sensing wipers. Temp controlled ac
Ofcourse u can turn it off but its nice to have...

They should make drl mandatory here in the states. Its a good safety feature imo

[cdo221]

I personally wish DRLs were mandatory in the states. It's SO much easier to spot a car that is running vs a parked car. I commute through SAn francisco everyday. people are driving in all lanes, making their own lanes, late merging, passing in the parking lane, etc. i can't count how many times I see a guy in the parking lane turn out to actually be driving or trying to make a right turn. Well, if they had DRLs I would know if they were actually running.

Plus, with all the jaywalking pedestrians and crazy bicyclists, everybody should have DRLs or low beams on whenever possible so they actually notice cars coming. Crazy homeless guys just love walking into the middle of the street right in front of my car.

I actually think the DRLs look pretty cool, especially if you can get it like 4300-6000k white.