I can't get my FR-S! :'(

[Mitch]

Originally Posted by Longhorn248

The highest salary fresh out of college for my graduating class was around $90k, so it's not out of the question, but that's typically going to be the petroleum engineering guys that get picked up by one of the big oil companies. It didn't hurt that our petroleum program is ranked 2nd in the nation. The average across the engineering disciplines was somewhere around the $55k-$60k range starting off.

Yeah, the guys from my ChemE graduating class who went into oil were making $80-90k out of college; starting salaries for the people who went into the chemical industry started in the $60-80k range; and government jobs (e.g. department of environmental quality) were in the $50-60k range.

[no_name]

Holy crap university is expensive in the States. Ontario tuition (if you live here) is about $7000 per year for engineering.

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by no_name

Holy crap university is expensive in the States. Ontario tuition (if you live here) is about $7000 per year for engineering.

Socialized society vs not. But I bet your taxes are higher.

[Mitch]

Originally Posted by no_name

Holy crap university is expensive in the States. Ontario tuition (if you live here) is about $7000 per year for engineering.

In-state tuition at Mississippi State is <$6000 per year. Private universities can cost an arm and a leg, but public are usually very affordable. And if your grades are good you can get half or more of your costs covered.

[bambbrose]

Originally Posted by Longhorn248

*has a flashback to physics exams where a 45 got you an A*

On my graduate level optics final, I got a 38. I ended with a B-. The high in the class was 46 lol.

[70NYD]

Wow, here you can get a job starting at ~120k straight from uni if you are willing to relocate to a buttfucknowhere mine site

[yarik83]

Lets get something straight.

NO JOB OUT THERE will pay you $120 straight from university. As a person working in the mining industry among engineers I can honestly say that for anyone to get that much money you MUST have 30+ years of experience IN the company or IN SIMILAR industry, education pedigree spewing from your ears and only as a superintendent. No company out there will allow a 4 year degree to compete 1:1 with people who have been employed in the company for years. You have to earn your place on the totem pole through years of experience.

Starting salary for most engineers is $60,000 at best.

BUT and this is a very BUT.
Mining industry in Australia for things like aluminum and iron is a very lucrative business that pays a lot of money but all work is contract work that requires you to relocate there in middle of nowhere and earn some cash. How that fairs against your potential pay is pretty self explanatory. They will not need 1000 engineers to work for the company. They will keep a stock of say 20 permitting engineers, 20 reclamation and ecologist folks, 10 surveyors and 20 monitoring folks. Standard pay scale is $60K+ for engineers $120K for superintendents, $60K for reclamation, $45 ecologists, $30 surveyors and monitoring folks.

Some industries do pay a ton of money for unskilled labor but its very dangerous (ie working on an oil rig, natural gas rig, deep ocean fishing) injury rates for those jobs are through the roof.

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by yarik83

Some industries do pay a ton of money for unskilled labor but its very dangerous (ie working on an oil rig, natural gas rig, deep ocean fishing) injury rates for those jobs are through the roof.

Can we throw timber cutters in there? I think that is #1.

[SVTSHC]

Originally Posted by 70NYD

Wow, here you can get a job starting at ~120k straight from uni if you are willing to relocate to a buttfucknowhere mine site

120k straight out of university?!?!?

You high lol?!? You need some serious experience and know how to even request that type of annual income and that sure as hell won't got to a fresh college grad.

[Longhorn248]

Originally Posted by SVTSHC

120k straight out of university?!?!?

You high lol?!? You need some serious experience and know how to even request that type of annual income and that sure as hell won't got to a fresh college grad.

Fresh out of college petroleum engineers can be making $90k as a field engineer. You're stuck in the middle of nowhere and the hours are hell but it pays well. I could see a mining engineer making $120k in Australia straight out of school depending on the location and the danger associated with the job.

[70NYD]

Originally Posted by yarik83

Lets get something straight.

NO JOB OUT THERE will pay you $120 straight from university. As a person working in the mining industry among engineers I can honestly say that for anyone to get that much money you MUST have 30+ years of experience IN the company or IN SIMILAR industry, education pedigree spewing from your ears and only as a superintendent. No company out there will allow a 4 year degree to compete 1:1 with people who have been employed in the company for years. You have to earn your place on the totem pole through years of experience.

Starting salary for most engineers is $60,000 at best.

BUT and this is a very BUT.
Mining industry in Australia for things like aluminum and iron is a very lucrative business that pays a lot of money but all work is contract work that requires you to relocate there in middle of nowhere and earn some cash. How that fairs against your potential pay is pretty self explanatory. They will not need 1000 engineers to work for the company. They will keep a stock of say 20 permitting engineers, 20 reclamation and ecologist folks, 10 surveyors and 20 monitoring folks. Standard pay scale is $60K+ for engineers $120K for superintendents, $60K for reclamation, $45 ecologists, $30 surveyors and monitoring folks.

Some industries do pay a ton of money for unskilled labor but its very dangerous (ie working on an oil rig, natural gas rig, deep ocean fishing) injury rates for those jobs are through the roof.

In Australia, the danger factor as a engineer working on mine site is not that great, compared to say being a fitter
The reason why it's payed so well is because not many ppl actually wanna go to work there, and they need engineers.
I was earning more than 60k straight from uni, and my job was/is 10 min drive from my house and I live in a major city. It is in the mining industry, but I'm not willing to relocate, so I'm not earning the figure I mentioned before. But few of my friends decided to move out to the stix and are earning around that, some little less some a little more.
But like I said they are earning that because not many ppl want to go out there. Some mines payed 180k for a dump truck operator cus there was a shortage start of this year

[Dimman]

Also 70NY, remind people what the estimated price of the GT86 in Australia is.

Different economies...

[Mitch]

Originally Posted by yarik83

Lets get something straight.

NO JOB OUT THERE will pay you $120 straight from university. As a person working in the mining industry among engineers I can honestly say that for anyone to get that much money you MUST have 30+ years of experience IN the company or IN SIMILAR industry, education pedigree spewing from your ears and only as a superintendent. No company out there will allow a 4 year degree to compete 1:1 with people who have been employed in the company for years. You have to earn your place on the totem pole through years of experience.

Starting salary for most engineers is $60,000 at best.

BUT and this is a very BUT.
Mining industry in Australia for things like aluminum and iron is a very lucrative business that pays a lot of money but all work is contract work that requires you to relocate there in middle of nowhere and earn some cash. How that fairs against your potential pay is pretty self explanatory. They will not need 1000 engineers to work for the company. They will keep a stock of say 20 permitting engineers, 20 reclamation and ecologist folks, 10 surveyors and 20 monitoring folks. Standard pay scale is $60K+ for engineers $120K for superintendents, $60K for reclamation, $45 ecologists, $30 surveyors and monitoring folks.

Some industries do pay a ton of money for unskilled labor but its very dangerous (ie working on an oil rig, natural gas rig, deep ocean fishing) injury rates for those jobs are through the roof.

A guy who graduated two years before me started making a hair over $100k on a drilling platform in Africa. He had three co-op cycles of experience. Long term ex-pat assignments typically pay significantly more (only way they can convince people to go out there).

I take particular exception to your bolded statement. My graduating class people got 50-60k for government jobs, 60-80k in the chemical industry, and 80-90k for oil (all domestic assignments).

[Jordo!]

Why does a college kid need a brand new sports car?