Official: Alfa Romeo 4C - Page 12 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

atledreier · 10-29-2013, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by husker741

You drove it? What was your time. I would love to drive it someday.

Did a 9:29 on worn stock tires on a scorching hot day with a passenger. I'm sure I could do way better but it just isn't worth putting it in the wall. So many unpredictable asshats on tourist drives. :-)

bakerr6 · 10-29-2013, 02:13 PM

still, that car is very sexy!

kALMIGHTY · 10-29-2013, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Whitigir

Anways, BRZ or FRS Limited is running around 28k or so. That is like 1/2 the price, but FT86 doesn't use Exotic Materials.

For a while, I thought Affordable, under 250HP = FT86 as the King. It just changed.

4C is very Affordable Super-Car. You will not find any other Super-Car at this price point. It is made to compete to Ferrari 458

....Lol. No. The 458 did it in 7:32. 4c did it in 8:04. That's 32 seconds slower, which is A LOT. You're comparing 560 hp to 240 hp. They are not meant to compete.

Whitigir · 10-29-2013, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by bakerr6

still, that car is very sexy!

Very Very Cute as well. LOL!

DarkSunrise · 10-29-2013, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Whitigir

It is just Itching to me that car is "The fastest Sport car under 250 HP"

Also, I am not much into After Market stuff

I know FT86 is coming out more powerful. I just need to be patience lol

The "fastest Sport car under 250 HP" is going to be the lightest car with under 250 hp. Case in point:

The Caterham Superlight R500 lapped the Ring in 7:55 with only 230 hp... in the year 2000. The trick was it only weighed ~1000 lbs.

husker741 · 10-29-2013, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by atledreier

Did a 9:29 on worn stock tires on a scorching hot day with a passenger. I'm sure I could do way better but it just isn't worth putting it in the wall. So many unpredictable asshats on tourist drives. :-)

That's very cool. Good for you!

eindio · 10-30-2013, 02:02 PM

It's an alpha. Please some one think about reliabilty

chrisl · 10-30-2013, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by eindio

It's an alpha. Please some one think about reliabilty

Well, it apparently made it the entire way around the nurburgring without breaking down, so Alfa is definitely heading in the right direction...

rice_classic · 10-30-2013, 02:16 PM

The 86 cannot beat the 4c around the ring while remaining under 250hp.

The 4c has a curb weight at or under 2000lbs and makes 240bhp. That's a 8.3:1 power to weight ratio.

At 250hp for the FRS it would need to weigh 2082lbs. That won't happen, not even close. The long, fast flowing sections of the Ring are so important to the lap time that the power:weight of the 4c puts it at a massive advantage even if the FRS had a traction advantage.

The 4c is 29k more expensive than the FRS for a reason.

Tgionet · 11-08-2013, 08:07 AM

The 4c is 86k not 54k as well.

ZDan · 11-08-2013, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by eindio

It's an alpha.

It most certainly is NOT an "alpha".

Atropine · 11-08-2013, 08:35 AM

The Alfa 4C is going to end up being $100k+ according to some members on the Miata forum.

They have been right on so many other things...I do not doubt them.

dem00n · 11-08-2013, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Atropine

The Alfa 4C is going to end up being $100k+ according to some members on the Miata forum.

They have been right on so many other things...I do not doubt them.

Miata forum?

Those guys dream about owning a car like this, what do they know?

strat61caster · 11-08-2013, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dem00n

Miata forum?

Those guys dream about owning a car like this, what do they know?

There are a fair number of enthusiasts who got tired of their Corvettes and Porsches and ended up being active Miata/86/S2000 owners, I wouldn't be surprised if they are inquiring to their local distributors to see if they can pick one up reasonably.

Just because the car is 'cheap' doesn't mean the owners are.

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rice_classic Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Nevermorange FRS Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 4,159 Thanks: 755 Thanked 4,200 Times in 1,803 Posts Mentioned: 77 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	The 86 cannot beat the 4c around the ring while remaining under 250hp. The 4c has a curb weight at or under 2000lbs and makes 240bhp. That's a 8.3:1 power to weight ratio. At 250hp for the FRS it would need to weigh 2082lbs. That won't happen, not even close. The long, fast flowing sections of the Ring are so important to the lap time that the power:weight of the 4c puts it at a massive advantage even if the FRS had a traction advantage. The 4c is 29k more expensive than the FRS for a reason. __________________ SCCA T4 - FRS

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